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Title: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 02, 2011, 12:53:30 PM
I think comic book movies have gotten better lately even if there is also an increase of the cut and paste movies being made.  I am really excited about seeing Thor but I couldn't care less about the Green Lantern movie and that is nothing to do with the character and everything to do with how they appear to have put no work into the movie to make it stand out.

For me, my favorite comic book movies so far are:

Batman (1989)
The Dark Knight
Blade, Blade II
Constantine
Elektra
From Hell
Hellboy, Hellboy II
Hulk, Incredible Hulk
Iron Man, Iron Man 2
Judge Dredd
The Losers
The Punisher 2004
Red
Sin City
Spawn
Watchmen
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: BigBadHarve on April 02, 2011, 03:10:02 PM
Batman Begins isn't on your list?  :'( 

Live Action Comic films that I like...

Batman Begins
Dark Knight
Sin City
Iron Man
Unbreakable
History of Violence
V For Vendetta
Watchmen
X-Men series
Hulk

Comic Book films have certainly come a long way. The irony for the longest time was that the actual comic books had richer and more complex plotting and character development than the films, which came across like the stereotypical view of comic books!

Looking forward to Thor and Captain America... and while Green Lantern is one I'll see, I don't have high hopes for it.

-BBH
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 02, 2011, 04:32:41 PM
Batman begins was okay, but I feel like the dark knight and tim burton's batman were so much better I just don't rank it very highly.

V for vendetta was an interesting movie, but I didn't really buy into it's premise nor the mixed messages of everyone stand up for themselves but also a terrorist bombing the government leading to freedom from a dictator overnight.  I think even when the movie came out we had enough object lessens to disprove this premise, but even more so lately.

I have mixed feelings about the X-men movies.  When I saw them I enjoyed them, but after rewatching them, after seeing much better movies since, I am less impressed.  I am, however looking forward to X-men first class.  I'm also looking forward to captain america!
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Nostalgic on April 02, 2011, 08:53:18 PM
Batman Begins /Dark Knight – Probably the best 'realistic' comic adaptations ever.
Blade/Blade Trinity - Hated blade II. The whole super vampire just didn't work for me.
Superman (Christopher Reeves) - Classic and still awesome.  ;D
Unbreakable –  Uniquely awesome!
Sin City - Uniquely awesome!
Iron Man -Iron Man II was also pretty good.
Watchmen – It was my first exposure to those guys but well done.
The Losers – Well done.
Incredible Hulk -The 2nd movie absolutely murdered the 1st
Spiderman II - Loved Doc Oc.
X-Men II - Liked it more than the other 2. Admittedly Nightcrawler had a lot to do with that.  Beast and Storm's hair were the only good points of the 3rd.  :P
Daredevil – Despite Affleck I liked it.   :D

Dishonorable Mentions...
Elektra, Spiderman III, Fantastic 4 (though it had its good points...)
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Ranerdar on April 02, 2011, 11:57:06 PM
My personal favorite is Mystery Men.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: rucker73 on April 03, 2011, 09:06:08 AM
Finally some love for Spider-Man 2.  I loved that movie and couldn't wait for number 3, and then Sony Pictures took a big steaming poop on my expectations with Spider-Man 3.


Other Faves -

Superman (1978)
Batman (1989)
Batman Begins
X-2
The Dark Knight
The Punisher (2004)

and tentatively if it ever actually gets made Deadpool (2014)
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Nate Grey on April 06, 2011, 02:44:00 AM
Favorite Comic Book movies are:

Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk (2008)
Spider-Man 1 and 2
X-Men 2
Iron Man 2
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Kick-Ass
Blade 1 and 2

Even without having watched them yet, I know Thor and Captain America are going to be at the top of my favorite comic book movies.  ;D I'm so looking forward to them. I can't say the same for Green Lantern and X-Men: First Class but as a comic book fan I feel obligated to watch them in the theaters.  :-\
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: gameplan.exe on April 06, 2011, 11:02:23 AM
Quote from: Nate Grey on April 06, 2011, 02:44:00 AM
Favorite Comic Book movies are:

Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk (2008)
Spider-Man 1 and 2
X-Men 2
Iron Man 2
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Kick-Ass
Blade 1 and 2

Even without having watching them yet, I know Thor and Captain America are going to be at the top of my favorite comic book movies.  ;D I'm so looking forward to them. I can't say the same for Green Lantern and X-Men: First Class but as a comic book fan I feel obligated to watch them in the theaters.  :-\


I won't post spoilers, per se, but I hate what they've done with Thor and X-men: FC, so I don't think I'll be seeing either of them in the theater. I'll be waiting for Netflix so the studios get as little of my $ as possible. It's not that I'm trying to "hurt" them, but I don't want to reinforce bad behavior.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 07, 2011, 02:15:14 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on April 06, 2011, 11:02:23 AM
I won't post spoilers, per se, but I hate what they've done with Thor and X-men: FC, so I don't think I'll be seeing either of them in the theater. I'll be waiting for Netflix so the studios get as little of my $ as possible. It's not that I'm trying to "hurt" them, but I don't want to reinforce bad behavior.

I don't really follow what you mean here.  I am definitely excited for these movies and i will see both in theaters.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: gameplan.exe on April 07, 2011, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: Palatinus on April 07, 2011, 02:15:14 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on April 06, 2011, 11:02:23 AM
I won't post spoilers, per se, but I hate what they've done with Thor and X-men: FC, so I don't think I'll be seeing either of them in the theater. I'll be waiting for Netflix so the studios get as little of my $ as possible. It's not that I'm trying to "hurt" them, but I don't want to reinforce bad behavior.

I don't really follow what you mean here.  I am definitely excited for these movies and i will see both in theaters.

Because they seriously messed with both of them. Look into their plots a little and you'll see what I mean. Not cool with me (or lots of other X-men / Thor fans).
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 07, 2011, 03:23:33 PM
I gave up on trying to follow the plots of any of the long-running comics as continuous.  Also, when a franchise moves from one medium to another, I am content with 1) Going in a different direction because you can.  I am okay with this because what is important to me about a character or set of characters is not specific plot points or character attributes, but more along the lines of themes.  If they are thematically correct, then I am okay with it.  For example, look at Batman:TAS.  Those character designs were way different from the comics and they work.  They work really well.  They are at once familiar and fresh.  2) Changing things to fit your new medium.  What works on a comic page and what works on the big screen can and will be different.  What looks like a well-designed, action packed battle in a few pages of a comic could amount to half a second on-screen.  Also, a lot of the reason for why things are done they way they are in comics is because of habit.  There used to be a reason for certain ways of doing characters and dialog that might not apply anymore but they are stuck in their ways.  The same is true with the movies.  They will do certain things a certain way because that is what they know to do.  These things will not likely line up between the two mediums.  3) Even in the comics characters aren't consistent.  Look at Thor, look at ultimate Thor.  Look at Thor when he is based on being a human and look at him when he is just a straight-up god.  And the X-Men.  They change around so much, I can't even really read them any more they are so far from what I know.  But that's fine.  Start fresh in the movie.  Don't bring all that baggage with you and just take the good ideas and make them work in the movie.

That's my opinion, but I know that there are film adaptations of things that I detest and it may be because I am too stubborn about their subject matter to be forgiving, so I understand your point.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Nostalgic on April 07, 2011, 05:57:25 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on April 07, 2011, 02:30:54 PM
Because they seriously messed with both of them. Look into their plots a little and you'll see what I mean. Not cool with me (or lots of other X-men / Thor fans).

I'll check them out in theaters, but my main concern with x-men:FC have nothing to do with it as it relates to the comics.  I accepted from the first xmen movie this is marvel earth 123456.... or whatever.  :D  My problems are the continuity issues within the movie genre's own established timeline from the first 4 movies.  You would think they could at least be consistent within their own medium. I mean you can tell the "issues" from the trailer.  :P
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Ranerdar on April 07, 2011, 07:14:31 PM
Quote from: Nostalgic on April 07, 2011, 05:57:25 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on April 07, 2011, 02:30:54 PM
Because they seriously messed with both of them. Look into their plots a little and you'll see what I mean. Not cool with me (or lots of other X-men / Thor fans).

I'll check them out in theaters, but my main concern with x-men:FC have nothing to do with it as it relates to the comics.  I accepted from the first xmen movie this is marvel earth 123456.... or whatever.  :D  My problems are the continuity issues within the movie genre's own established timeline from the first 4 movies.  You would think they could at least be consistent within their own medium. I mean you can tell the "issues" from the trailer.  :P

You mean like how White Queen, who was in her late teens in X-Men Origins: Wolverine is now late 20's in X-Men: First Class. Even though First Class takes place before Origins.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: gameplan.exe on April 07, 2011, 08:27:13 PM
I'm all for new designs, but making an origins movie, while more or less completely ignoring the actual origins, really bothers me.

If they came out with a Spider-Man: Origins movie, wherein Peter Parker grows up in an orphanage because Carnage killed Aunt & Uncle & parents - I don't think Spider-Man fans would deal with it well (or comic fans, in general).
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 07, 2011, 09:43:51 PM
Ah, now I see.  This is a problem with the promotional material.  The X-Men First Class movie is not in the same continuity as the previous X-Men films just as the X-Men First Class comics are not in the continuity of the regular comics.  They are advertising the movie as if it is a prequel which it is not.  That's a big mistake on their part.  I felt the original X-Men movies were okay, but I am happy for something not of that universe.  I found out about the movie before this poorly done promotion so I was never expecting it to be in the other movies continuity.  Also, that sounds like an awesome set up for a Spider-Man reboot!
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: HotDogCart on April 07, 2011, 10:42:24 PM
My favorite comic book movies are:

Watchmen
The Dark Knight
Red
Sin City
Constantine
Hellboy, Hellboy II
Iron Man
The Losers
The Punisher 2004
V For Vendetta

I LOVED all of these ones <3
I really want them to make a movie (or a series of movies) on the sandman comics.
I think they would have a lot to work with, and it would end up being as cool, and creepy as the comics.


Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Nostalgic on April 08, 2011, 02:19:08 AM
Quote from: Palatinus on April 07, 2011, 09:43:51 PM
Ah, now I see.  This is a problem with the promotional material.  The X-Men First Class movie is not in the same continuity as the previous X-Men films just as the X-Men First Class comics are not in the continuity of the regular comics.  They are advertising the movie as if it is a prequel which it is not.  That's a big mistake on their part.  I felt the original X-Men movies were okay, but I am happy for something not of that universe.  I found out about the movie before this poorly done promotion so I was never expecting it to be in the other movies continuity.  Also, that sounds like an awesome set up for a Spider-Man reboot!

How do you know this? I mean it makes sense "logically" (as far as why there would be all the differences), but is there a link or are you solely basing it on comics.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 08, 2011, 09:45:30 AM
Quote from: Nostalgic on April 08, 2011, 02:19:08 AM
How do you know this? I mean it makes sense "logically" (as far as why there would be all the differences), but is there a link or are you solely basing it on comics.

You've got me there.  The material I read on the movie from several months ago made a clear statement that the movie was a different universe, but the new stuff I am reading makes that far less clear.  I still suspect that the people making the movie did not intend to conform to the other movies' continuity but that the people promoting the movie very much want people to go in expecting a prequel to the other movies.  If you consider that the Wolverine movie was supposed to be a prequel in the same continuity but still threw continuity out the window when it suited them, I really can't predict exactly what this new movie is going to do, but I do know that it has been explicitly stated that this will be the first of a trilogy.  Also in the press release information which you can find on google or excerpts on wikipedia, they have stated that this movie is very similar to the comic book X-Men:  First Class which is why they named it that.

In any event, I will take this movie as it comes and see if it is good or not.  Like I did with Wolverine.  I was even willing to forgive the Wolverine movie an awful lot.  Until Deadpool had swords magically appear from his wrists and lasers shooting from his eyes.  At that point I just sighed and let the movie spiral into its ending.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Ranerdar on April 08, 2011, 11:13:43 AM
Quote from: Palatinus on April 08, 2011, 09:45:30 AM
they have stated that this movie is very similar to the comic book X-Men:  First Class which is why they named it that.

Team in the First Class comic: Angel, Beast, Cyclops, Iceman and Jean Grey

Team in the First Class movie: Beast, Havok, Banshee and Mystique.

Very similar...except for, you know...the characters.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 08, 2011, 11:24:51 AM
Concepts and characters don't have to go together 100%.  I am really happy to see some new characters in this movie as I'm not totally thrilled with the treatment of some of the other characters in the previous films.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Ranerdar on April 08, 2011, 11:30:23 AM
Well, perhaps your just more highly evolved than the average comic book fan. All I'm saying is it makes no sense to change the origins of your characters. All it's going to do is alienate your core audience. People who don't like comic books are not going to go see the movie now because Havok is in instead of Cyclops. And comic fans are gonna pissed that Cyclops' little brother is now a founding member of the team and Cyc is now where to be seen.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 08, 2011, 12:02:23 PM
Well . . . the average audience member will probably be happy so long as things blow up, people say funny things just before/after things blow up, some guy and some girl look like they won't get together but *surprise* they do, and there is a happy ending.

As far as the comic book fans . . . tying to please them is very very hard and very very expensive.

But I will say, in general they have not done a very good job even in the confines of what is available as far as capturing what is truly great about comic books in movie format.  I really think that the best way to do it is in an episodic format with a tv show.  I just haven't even seen a live action show that has done that well.  Honestly, I think some of the best offerings lately have been animated features and tv shows.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Nostalgic on April 08, 2011, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: Ranerdar on April 08, 2011, 11:13:43 AM
Quote from: Palatinus on April 08, 2011, 09:45:30 AM
they have stated that this movie is very similar to the comic book X-Men:  First Class which is why they named it that.

Team in the First Class comic: Angel, Beast, Cyclops, Iceman and Jean Grey

Team in the First Class movie: Beast, Havok, Banshee and Mystique.

Very similar...except for, you know...the characters.


Perhaps wasp takes Angel's place.  :D (stretching it here...)

As a part of continuity with the other movies, I was willing to deal with a different first class given what they did with Angel, Jean (in X2 opening), and Iceman in the other movies. In spite of the fact that in the first movie while giving Logan the tour Xavier says Scott and Jean were some of his first students...  ::)

I can't abide what you pointed out about white queen, or beast transforming in the prequel even though he's shown to still be normal in the 1st movie, among other things.  >:(


Quote from: Palatinus on April 08, 2011, 09:45:30 AM
In any event, I will take this movie as it comes and see if it is good or not.  Like I did with Wolverine.  I was even willing to forgive the Wolverine movie an awful lot.  Until Deadpool had swords magically appear from his wrists and lasers shooting from his eyes.  At that point I just sighed and let the movie spiral into its ending.

QFT!

Though I thought Ryan Renolds was excellently cast as deadpool, that was the same point in the movie I said, "WHY?" Lol!

On a randoml note I loved  how Liev Schreiber played sabretooth, but I wish they would have at least hinted at blond hair.  :D
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 08, 2011, 03:17:08 PM
I like a lot of the beginning of the movie.  And I liked the casting.  I thought that was great.  It was typical though.  They had this great setup and great set of actors.  A nice budget, a big audience.  So, they decide, hmmm, a movie about mutants with extraordinary powers running a muck just isn't enough.  We really need to find a way to jump this shark and jump it in a big way.  Kind of like the end of the first Hulk movie.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: The Dude on April 10, 2011, 04:11:58 PM
I'm a firm believer in Spiderman 1 and 2 being the best comic movies ever (with #2 getting the top spot).

After that I'd probably go Superman II (Kneel Before Zod)

and then in no particular order I like X-Men 2, Iron Man, the newest Hulk, and a lot of the Batmans (including Adam West) although of course Batman 4 with Mr. Freeze might be the worst move ever made.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 11, 2011, 10:01:30 AM
I can't even begin to tell you how much I hate Elijah Wood.  He ruins the Spider-Man movies for me.  Just totally ruins them.  Like he ruins the Lord of the Rings for me.  And anything he is ever in.  Superman II is pretty good, but not without some serious flaws.  Zod was great though.  I liked the last season of Smallville that centered around Zod.  I think they did a great job with him and they did not leave out "kneel before Zod".

Yeah, Batman 4 could have been awesome if they had good writing and directing.  It looks like a great cast and collection of villains, but they really really really screwed the pooch on that one.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Ranerdar on April 11, 2011, 12:39:47 PM
What does Elijah Wood have to do with Spider-Man?
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 11, 2011, 12:52:15 PM
Quote from: Ranerdar on April 11, 2011, 12:39:47 PM
What does Elijah Wood have to do with Spider-Man?

Probably nothing unless you are stupid like me and forget that Elijah Wood and Tobey Maguire are different people.  I hate them both for the same reasons though.  They are both sniveling, whining, little weaselly-men that ruin my favorite stuff.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Ranerdar on April 11, 2011, 12:55:06 PM
Fair enough.

Don't feel too bad. My wife mixes actors and actresses up all the time. It's kind of amusing some times.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 11, 2011, 01:00:40 PM
I usually don't, but there are a few that I do.  I'm usually the one correcting other people's mistaken actors names.  But seriously, I can't re-watch the Spider-Man movies because any scene with Peter Parker makes me want to kill something.  I really like everything else in the first two movies though, especially Doctor Octopus.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: metaphist on April 11, 2011, 01:00:55 PM
I've long since confused Matt Damon with Mark Walberg for some reason.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 11, 2011, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: metaphist on April 11, 2011, 01:00:55 PM
I've long since confused Matt Damon with Mark Walberg for some reason.

I think it is because they have similar acting styles, play a lot of similar parts, and have some of the same facial features.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Nostalgic on April 11, 2011, 05:57:23 PM
Quote from: Palatinus on April 11, 2011, 01:00:40 PM
I can't re-watch the Spider-Man movies because any scene with Peter Parker makes me want to kill something.  I really like everything else in the first two movies though, especially Doctor Octopus.

Woah!  :o That's pretty strong/harsh!  :D

I thought Toby may have been a little wimpy at times, but he was supposed to represent the geek with power.  You know a regular guy with bills due, best/worst-friend/enemy, and girl problems while at the same time dealing with the whole, "with great power..." mantle.  He did make the wisecracks and stuff from time to time.  As far as being true to the character I would think critics might look at as a question of degree as opposed all out disgust.  :D
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Ranerdar on April 11, 2011, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: metaphist on April 11, 2011, 01:00:55 PM
I've long since confused Matt Damon with Mark Walberg for some reason.

I have a friend who still has trouble with Bill Pullman and Bill Paxton.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 11, 2011, 07:36:33 PM
Quote from: Ranerdar on April 11, 2011, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: metaphist on April 11, 2011, 01:00:55 PM
I've long since confused Matt Damon with Mark Walberg for some reason.

I have a friend who still has trouble with Bill Pullman and Bill Paxton.

Me too!

Quote from: Nostalgic on April 11, 2011, 05:57:23 PM
Quote from: Palatinus on April 11, 2011, 01:00:40 PM
I can't re-watch the Spider-Man movies because any scene with Peter Parker makes me want to kill something.  I really like everything else in the first two movies though, especially Doctor Octopus.

Woah!  :o That's pretty strong/harsh!  :D

I thought Toby may have been a little wimpy at times, but he was supposed to represent the geek with power.  You know a regular guy with bills due, best/worst-friend/enemy, and girl problems while at the same time dealing with the whole, "with great power..." mantle.  He did make the wisecracks and stuff from time to time.  As far as being true to the character I would think critics might look at as a question of degree as opposed all out disgust.  :D

Nothing about Toby is appealing to me for the part.  Yeah, he could pull off high school Peter, but definitely not adult Peter.  More than that though, I really can't stand him on-screen.  Just a big let-down.  I am really looking forward to the reboot.  Just please god don't let it go the way the second Punisher movie did.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: gameplan.exe on April 12, 2011, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: Ranerdar on April 11, 2011, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: metaphist on April 11, 2011, 01:00:55 PM
I've long since confused Matt Damon with Mark Walberg for some reason.

I have a friend who still has trouble with Bill Pullman and Bill Paxton.

I am that friend  :-\

Post Merge: July 22, 2011, 04:18:00 PM

Also, I loved Toby's Peter Parker. I really did. I even liked the direction of the 3rd movie, when he went emo. I thought it was a perfect modernization of the mood swing Peter went through with the symbiote suit.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on April 12, 2011, 01:27:15 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on April 12, 2011, 01:17:54 PM
Also, I loved Toby's Peter Parker. I really did. I even liked the direction of the 3rd movie, when he went emo. I thought it was a perfect modernization of the mood swing Peter went through with the symbiote suit.

I have heard people make some positive analyses about the third movie although that the first I've heard of someone liking emo Peter.  I can see people liking these movies and liking Toby.  I really don't like him and I can't separate that from his performance.  The good thing is they made three of these movies for people who like them and they are making new ones for people who didn't, so everyone wins.  And I really have to give the Spider-Man movie franchise credit because without them I don't think we would have seen so many well-done super-hero movies.  And I did like these movies well-enough when I first watched them in theaters.  It was just so amazing to see Spider-Man on the big screen swinging around.  I think I have just raised my standards since then because of how good comic book movies have become, in no small part thanks to the Spider-Man movies.  So for me, they raised a bar that they no longer can reach.  In any event, I'm always a sucker for superhero stuff.  I've watched even the really bad movies so I can appreciate where the ones I don't like are still decent movies that other people can like.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Ranerdar on April 12, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on April 12, 2011, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: Ranerdar on April 11, 2011, 05:58:54 PM
Quote from: metaphist on April 11, 2011, 01:00:55 PM
I've long since confused Matt Damon with Mark Walberg for some reason.

I have a friend who still has trouble with Bill Pullman and Bill Paxton.

I am that friend  :-\

Ok, I have two friends with this problem.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Palatinus on August 08, 2011, 09:28:55 AM
Quote from: Palatinus on April 02, 2011, 12:53:30 PM
I think comic book movies have gotten better lately even if there is also an increase of the cut and paste movies being made.  I am really excited about seeing Thor but I couldn't care less about the Green Lantern movie and that is nothing to do with the character and everything to do with how they appear to have put no work into the movie to make it stand out.

For me, my favorite comic book movies so far are:

Batman (1989)
The Dark Knight
Blade, Blade II
Constantine
Elektra
From Hell
Hellboy, Hellboy II
Hulk, Incredible Hulk
Iron Man, Iron Man 2
Judge Dredd
The Losers
The Punisher 2004
Red
Sin City
Spawn
Watchmen

So I will add Thor, X-Men:  First Class, and Captain America to my list.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: steve2275 on March 28, 2012, 09:59:26 PM
*is the only one who liked ang's hulk movie*
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: BigBadHarve on March 28, 2012, 10:27:20 PM
Quote from: steve2275 on March 28, 2012, 09:59:26 PM
*is the only one who liked ang's hulk movie*

Not the only one. I quite liked it. I was hugely disappointed that the Norton version wasn't a proper sequel. I liked them both, Ang Lee's was an interesting Jekyll and Hyde piece. I preferred Eric Bana as Banner over Edward Norton. Now, while I believe Norton is the better actor by far, Bana made a better Bruce Banner.

-BBH
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 06:13:23 AM
Quote from: BigBadHarve on March 28, 2012, 10:27:20 PM
Quote from: steve2275 on March 28, 2012, 09:59:26 PM
*is the only one who liked ang's hulk movie*

Not the only one. I quite liked it. I was hugely disappointed that the Norton version wasn't a proper sequel. I liked them both, Ang Lee's was an interesting Jekyll and Hyde piece. I preferred Eric Bana as Banner over Edward Norton. Now, while I believe Norton is the better actor by far, Bana made a better Bruce Banner.

-BBH

What do you think about the switch from Norton to Ruffalo for the Avengers film?
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: gameplan.exe on March 29, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: BigBadHarve on March 28, 2012, 10:27:20 PM
Quote from: steve2275 on March 28, 2012, 09:59:26 PM
*is the only one who liked ang's hulk movie*

Not the only one. I quite liked it. I was hugely disappointed that the Norton version wasn't a proper sequel. I liked them both, Ang Lee's was an interesting Jekyll and Hyde piece. I preferred Eric Bana as Banner over Edward Norton. Now, while I believe Norton is the better actor by far, Bana made a better Bruce Banner.

-BBH

I actually liked the first one a lot - so much, in fact, that I've yet to see the second one.  :-\
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 11:29:35 AM
Quote from: ncannelora on March 29, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Quote from: BigBadHarve on March 28, 2012, 10:27:20 PM
Quote from: steve2275 on March 28, 2012, 09:59:26 PM
*is the only one who liked ang's hulk movie*

Not the only one. I quite liked it. I was hugely disappointed that the Norton version wasn't a proper sequel. I liked them both, Ang Lee's was an interesting Jekyll and Hyde piece. I preferred Eric Bana as Banner over Edward Norton. Now, while I believe Norton is the better actor by far, Bana made a better Bruce Banner.

-BBH

I actually liked the first one a lot - so much, in fact, that I've yet to see the second one.  :-\

Really? You are the first person that I've heard say that  and I don't mean it as an insult....I will say IMO I am like BBH I wish it would have been set in a sequel format but Norton was excellent and I would have loved to see him reprise his role of Banner.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: gameplan.exe on March 29, 2012, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 11:29:35 AM
Really? You are the first person that I've heard say that  and I don't mean it as an insult....I will say IMO I am like BBH I wish it would have been set in a sequel format but Norton was excellent and I would have loved to see him reprise his role of Banner.

yeah, I think it suffered a littler personal-backlash from me. It became so popular, and people liked it so much more, that my knee-jerk reaction was to avoid it  :-\
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: BigBadHarve on March 29, 2012, 12:04:02 PM
Quote from: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 06:13:23 AM

What do you think about the switch from Norton to Ruffalo for the Avengers film?

I prefer continuity, so while I think Norton wasn't the right fit for Banner, I would have liked him to reprise the role. As far as what Ruffalo has done with the role - that remains to be seen. I'm not a huge fan of Ruffalo to begin with, but time will tell I guess.

Quote from: ncannelora on March 29, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
I actually liked the first one a lot - so much, in fact, that I've yet to see the second one.  :-\

It's not bad overall. It's sort of a half-sequel/half-reboot. It's pretty much everything people complained that the first one wasn't. Definitely worth watching if you're going to do an Avenger's marathon with the established Marvel movies.

Had it been a proper sequel, with the same cast, I think people who didn't like the original might have learned to appreciate it more. And Universal could have renewed some interest in the first one as well. There are a lot of fun moments. I didn't like Liv Tyler as Betty Ross, she was also miscast. William Hurt is a fine actor, but they made his Ross more a villain, whereas Sam Elliot's Ross was a man of duty bound by bureaucracy.

-BBH
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 12:05:49 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on March 29, 2012, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 11:29:35 AM
Really? You are the first person that I've heard say that  and I don't mean it as an insult....I will say IMO I am like BBH I wish it would have been set in a sequel format but Norton was excellent and I would have loved to see him reprise his role of Banner.

yeah, I think it suffered a littler personal-backlash from me. It became so popular, and people liked it so much more, that my knee-jerk reaction was to avoid it  :-\

I can understand that - I've done that with some other things. But I do like this one   ;D

I think the only thing I'm really tired of seeing with Marvel Movies is Stan Lee  :o I know some people will probably drill me for that statement, but its just getting so cheesey - they need to add a little subtle acting instead of in your face "whats up, Im stan lee!"  :P

Quote from: BigBadHarve on March 29, 2012, 12:04:02 PM
Quote from: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 06:13:23 AM

What do you think about the switch from Norton to Ruffalo for the Avengers film?

I prefer continuity, so while I think Norton wasn't the right fit for Banner, I would have liked him to reprise the role. As far as what Ruffalo has done with the role - that remains to be seen. I'm not a huge fan of Ruffalo to begin with, but time will tell I guess.

Quote from: ncannelora on March 29, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
I actually liked the first one a lot - so much, in fact, that I've yet to see the second one.  :-\

It's not bad overall. It's sort of a half-sequel/half-reboot. It's pretty much everything people complained that the first one wasn't. Definitely worth watching if you're going to do an Avenger's marathon with the established Marvel movies.

Had it been a proper sequel, with the same cast, I think people who didn't like the original might have learned to appreciate it more. And Universal could have renewed some interest in the first one as well. There are a lot of fun moments. I didn't like Liv Tyler as Betty Ross, she was also miscast. William Hurt is a fine actor, but they made his Ross more a villain, whereas Sam Elliot's Ross was a man of duty bound by bureaucracy.

-BBH

I understand - I've never really watched Ruffalo in much - my wife likes him in stuff so she's excited that they switched to him so theres something  guess....lol.
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: gameplan.exe on March 29, 2012, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 12:05:49 PM
I understand - I've never really watched Ruffalo in much - my wife likes him in stuff so she's excited that they switched to him so theres something  guess....lol.

well, you know, whatever it takes to get my wife to go watch an action flick w/me is a positive  ;D
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on March 29, 2012, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 12:05:49 PM
I understand - I've never really watched Ruffalo in much - my wife likes him in stuff so she's excited that they switched to him so theres something  guess....lol.

well, you know, whatever it takes to get my wife to go watch an action flick w/me is a positive  ;D

Oh I know. That massive timespan that all of the comic movies came out - Hulk, Iron Man, Hancock (yeah it counted) etc..... she went to all of them with me even though she isnt very big into comics. The funny part though is in movies like "Hulk" I enjoy the action and explosions and in the Hulk I really liked the Hulk vs Abom stuff with all of the hits fast pace movement; well when Banner was talking to Betty and they were getting a little sappy  :P I started to ask her a question and she said "Shhh this is the good part." I couldn't help but smile....she managed to find a 'chick flick' in the middle of the Hulk........
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: gameplan.exe on March 29, 2012, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on March 29, 2012, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 12:05:49 PM
I understand - I've never really watched Ruffalo in much - my wife likes him in stuff so she's excited that they switched to him so theres something  guess....lol.

well, you know, whatever it takes to get my wife to go watch an action flick w/me is a positive  ;D

Oh I know. That massive timespan that all of the comic movies came out - Hulk, Iron Man, Hancock (yeah it counted) etc..... she went to all of them with me even though she isnt very big into comics. The funny part though is in movies like "Hulk" I enjoy the action and explosions and in the Hulk I really liked the Hulk vs Abom stuff with all of the hits fast pace movement; well when Banner was talking to Betty and they were getting a little sappy  :P I started to ask her a question and she said "Shhh this is the good part." I couldn't help but smile....she managed to find a 'chick flick' in the middle of the Hulk........

LOL!! that's so funny  :D
This would never work for my wife, though, because she despises Liv Tyler  :P
Title: Re: Comic Book Movies (Live Action)
Post by: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on March 29, 2012, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on March 29, 2012, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: Jesse on March 29, 2012, 12:05:49 PM
I understand - I've never really watched Ruffalo in much - my wife likes him in stuff so she's excited that they switched to him so theres something  guess....lol.

well, you know, whatever it takes to get my wife to go watch an action flick w/me is a positive  ;D

Oh I know. That massive timespan that all of the comic movies came out - Hulk, Iron Man, Hancock (yeah it counted) etc..... she went to all of them with me even though she isnt very big into comics. The funny part though is in movies like "Hulk" I enjoy the action and explosions and in the Hulk I really liked the Hulk vs Abom stuff with all of the hits fast pace movement; well when Banner was talking to Betty and they were getting a little sappy  :P I started to ask her a question and she said "Shhh this is the good part." I couldn't help but smile....she managed to find a 'chick flick' in the middle of the Hulk........

LOL!! that's so funny  :D
This would never work for my wife, though, because she despises Liv Tyler  :P

LOL! Mine does too!