Ally Duplication

[Demacus]

Does Link (<=5F, 3F) count as a duplicate of Wong (<=5F, 3F)?  I mean, it makes sense if it does, but I wasn't sure if Allys worked like Specials, where you look at the name for duplication, or if they work like every other universe where you check the actual stats on the card.

Sounds like I answered my own question there, but I'm posting anyway.

[Jack]

Duplicate Universe: Ally Cards—A Hand may only include one of each specific Universe: Ally card. Meaning, Universe: Ally cards are only duplicates if they are identical in Power Type, and Value. For example, a Universe: Ally card that requires a 6 Fighting to use is not a duplicate of a Universe: Ally that requires a 6 Strength to use. A Universe: Ally card only is a duplicate if it matches the Type, and Value regardless of what the image is on the specific Universe: Ally card.

Source - Batman/Monumental Rulebook.

[Demacus]

That's what I thought.  Thank you Jack.  :-D

[Jack]

This would also mean that having both 6A 1E and 6A 1F ally cards in hand would be legal too. I thought it was just the "To Use" that determined duplicates.

[gameplan.exe]

This would also mean that having both 6A 1E and 6A 1F ally cards in hand would be legal too. I thought it was just the "To Use" that determined duplicates.

yeah, it's slightly different than the rule for duplicate Teamwork cards that way (which are duplicate based on the "to use" number and icon, only, regardless of the follow up types).

[mattkoz]

waitaminute... how are teamwork cards duplicated???

[Jack]

This would also mean that having both 6A 1E and 6A 1F ally cards in hand would be legal too. I thought it was just the "To Use" that determined duplicates.

yeah, it's slightly different than the rule for duplicate Teamwork cards that way (which are duplicate based on the "to use" number and icon, only, regardless of the follow up types).

waitaminute... how are teamwork cards duplicated???

Both Ally and Teamwork have the same criteria:

Duplicate Universe: Teamwork cards—A Hand may only include one of each specific Universe: Teamwork card. Meaning, Universe: Teamwork cards are only duplicates if they are identical in Power Type, and Value

[mattkoz]

OK, so they must be identical in all ways and icons (except the art that's pictured). The last post seemed to say otherwise

[steve2275]

u can have say   
str 7 and an energy 7
but not two str 7

[mattkoz]

Oh shit, I have been doing this wrong for a while. I don't know how I missed it!

A Universe: Teamwork card is a duplicate if it matches the Type, and Value, regardless of the Bonus to additional attacks, or what image is on the specific Universe: Teamwork card. For example, a Universe: Teamwork card that requires at least a 7 Strength to use, and offers a bonus to Fighting and Intellect is considered a duplicate of a Universe: Teamwork card that requires a 7 Strength to use, but offers a bonus to Energy and Fighting

I have been considering them dupes only if they are the exact same type, including bonuses.  WOOOPS!

That's weird because basic universe only dupe if the value, type, and bonuses are  the same.

[Demacus]

Teamworks are a little too varied to use ths same dupe rules as basics... Would be too powerful to have a 7E placed and another in hand, especially if the bonuses were different.

[mattkoz]

This isn't specifically about Ally Duplication, but does it bother anyone else that Ally cards are universe cards? Seems like they could have/should have made them tactic cards. Would help for placing purposes, and might be a more accurate description (tactically using your ally to assist).

[The Dude]

It doesn't bother me that Ally's are universe cards because they are still a physical thing. Personally if the game was ever to relaunch I'd switch it so that universe cards would all be physical--so Basic (probably renamed as Weapon) Ally and Artifact would all by Universe cards, while Tactics would all be "strategy modifiers" (so Training, Teamwork and Doubleshot). It would just make more sense to divide them that way imo; plus then there would be a seperate Tactic for single heroes (training), two heroes (doubleshot) and three heroes (teamwork) which also has a nice symetry to it.

[Demacus]

Have to agree with The Dude.  That certainly does make a lot more sense.  I think the reason a lot of cards fell as they did was due to when the timing with which they were released, and not any other logical reason.  Also cards like Trevor Fitzroy for The Hellfire Club would be WAY more useful if it could target Teamworks, but I think that's one of a very few cards in that pool of usefulness.