Killers: Born or Made (my personal expansion set)- Title & card back gifted to me from doktorsleepless. I made several adjustments to the previous cards I posted & wanted to condense them all into one post. Witchblade is different as chuu did me the honors of constructing them as a favor before I got started. Purple is the wifes favorite anyways so I left them as they were made by Master chuu. Lots more to come, enjoy.
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The Cyber & Death's Head II cards look much improved.
Did you mean the Miss Sinister 'The Hellfire Club" cards to function like the "WM" coded cards on justabgkid's site? Or are they all non-OPD, and you load your deck up with them?
Quote from: justa on January 30, 2015, 04:53:11 PM
The Cyber & Death's Head II cards look much improved.
Did you mean the Miss Sinister 'The Hellfire Club" cards to function like the "WM" coded cards on justabgkid's site? Or are they all non-OPD, and you load your deck up with them?
Yeah, I thought that idea was really cool off of justabgkids... Humm.. Are you from that site? or is the beginning of the name just coincidence? Anyways, I seen that verbiage & wanted to work it into a character of mine. I wanted a low rank attack but was kinda spent on the 4 & may make 4 again business... So for Miss. Sinister, I kinda blended Mr. Sinister (its him... kinda), White Queen (because she has similar capibilities as her) with the Hellfires special format (alot of OPD's & little in the way of specials) plus she was in the Hellfire.. So thats the overall design for her cards but I really wanted a card that made the opponent think about what they were doing & gamble. That wording was great, unique & I think a great fit for her character. So yes in short, just like the "WM" card from justabigkids site.
No, we're different people. It's "justa" coincidence. (Comes from a musical nickname for me.)
killer
Cyber's innate could use spelling correction, also on Miss Sinister's DNA card there is a typo on DND, and a spacing problem :)
I love the "play face down" mechanic on DNA Implant and The Hellfire Club! It takes the BK Special card's ability and devolves it to individual cards, which is awesome. Plus, the card draw on DNA Implant is really awesome.
But, I will add this: you are basically forced to design some other cards with this mechanic. If you only have one card in the game that is played face down and draws you a card, everyone will know what it is every time it gets played. Which sort of devalues the strategic aspect of playing it face down so that the opponent doesn't know what it is.
That's not a bad thing though! Make more sweet "play face down & draw 1 card" specials!
Check out the "WM" write up on justabgkid's site. The upside of these cards is that you can have as many as 4 of these in your deck, but only 1 of each number attack. The opponent knows its a 1-4 attack, but not which one. If the opponent successfully defends it with a special or a power card greater than the attack, the attacker gets +2 for Venture total. The downside is supposed to be that if the opponent defends with a matching # power card, the power card hits the attacker.
From trying them out, we found they work best with only 3 in the deck, because the 4th becomes obvious.
Quote from: Tussin on January 30, 2015, 07:17:10 PM
Cyber's innate could use spelling correction, also on Miss Sinister's DNA card there is a typo on DND, and a spacing problem :)
Damn! lol Thanks, I obviously didn't see that. Guess I stared at them too long I started to go blind. lol I think I have them all fixed now
Quote from: steve2275 on January 30, 2015, 06:46:30 PM
killer
Thanks man.
Quote from: DoktorSleepless on January 30, 2015, 08:28:10 PM
I love the "play face down" mechanic on DNA Implant and The Hellfire Club! It takes the BK Special card's ability and devolves it to individual cards, which is awesome. Plus, the card draw on DNA Implant is really awesome.
But, I will add this: you are basically forced to design some other cards with this mechanic. If you only have one card in the game that is played face down and draws you a card, everyone will know what it is every time it gets played. Which sort of devalues the strategic aspect of playing it face down so that the opponent doesn't know what it is.
That's not a bad thing though! Make more sweet "play face down & draw 1 card" specials!
Yes sir. I've got OPD's in mind for various upcoming characters in this set. Also I had planned on adding a few odd ball cards here & there for other characters. But I really couldn't give a sneaky, smart card to a brute type character. But yes in short.. Their will be a few more like "DNA Implants"...
Quote from: justa on January 30, 2015, 09:39:25 PM
Check out the "WM" write up on justabgkid's site. The upside of these cards is that you can have as many as 4 of these in your deck, but only 1 of each number attack. The opponent knows its a 1-4 attack, but not which one. If the opponent successfully defends it with a special or a power card greater than the attack, the attacker gets +2 for Venture total. The downside is supposed to be that if the opponent defends with a matching # power card, the power card hits the attacker.
From trying them out, we found they work best with only 3 in the deck, because the 4th becomes obvious.
Yep, Its a gamble for both. I wanted to do up to level 5 but thought that to be a bit ridiculous. However... I can see 3 being the key number because like you said.. Three cards played.. 2,4 & 1.. gee I wonder... So yeah. But you can rotate which 3 if you play the same opponent.
i like how all but witchblade can do special spectrum ko
Am I correct in assuming that the hit on Witchblade's "Biomech Armor" still counts for venture total if its not defended?
Most of the Miss Sinister Specials have disappeared. (twilight zone?......)
Quote from: steve2275 on January 31, 2015, 03:19:23 AM
i like how all but witchblade can do special spectrum ko
Witchblade is one of my wifes main characters so it was more of a "power up" while still using her existing cards. So I didnt add any new attacks for her.
Quote from: justa on January 31, 2015, 01:50:19 PM
Am I correct in assuming that the hit on Witchblade's "Biomech Armor" still counts for venture total if its not defended?
Most of the Miss Sinister Specials have disappeared. (twilight zone?......)
You cant see Miss. Sinister's cards? I can still see them... So I'm a bit confused. Venture doesn't apply in our games but outside of our family bouts i'd say yes.
DNA Implants still shows. The others have a black box with the statement "The image you are requesting does not exist or is no longer available. imgur.com". I don't know computer stuff very well, so I couldn't even begin to guess what may have happened. [I already grabbed a copy of them to review at my own leisure, anyway. :)]
Quote from: justa on January 31, 2015, 05:09:34 PM
DNA Implants still shows. The others have a black box with the statement "The image you are requesting does not exist or is no longer available. imgur.com". I don't know computer stuff very well, so I couldn't even begin to guess what may have happened. [I already grabbed a copy of them to review at my own leisure, anyway. :)]
I think I have it corrected justa. Let me know, thanks.
They're back.............
I meant to post this the other day, but I had to leave the computer in a hurry and I didn't finish. Fortunately I save it. Apologies for not getting finished with Witchblade, I'll come back and cover her. I'm copy-pasting what was on the screen a couple of days ago. Hopefully it's useful, everyone has been great with feedback for me and I always feel I'm not adequately returning the favor.
Ok, so this is my nit-picky set review. Not trying to overstep here, please take this as constructive feedback.
Cyber - Character card has the previously mentioned misspelled Intellect.
Pain & Suffering - I might phrase the second clause thusly: Cards which are usable by Cyber may be played as attacks, unusable cards are discarded.
Hallucinogenic Drug - I can understand if you don't want to include the opening clause "Acts as a" before the level of attack, but after the "if successful" you don't specify whether it's Cyber or the target who may not attack or defend (I would assume the target?).
Assassin for Hire - Is either missing the word "avoid" or "make" before "attack of 9 or less". I'd guess avoid?
Psychotic Rage - Needs a space between "any" and "power", probably? I actually don't know if that's one word in OP jargon.
Psychic Control - Where it says "one fighting attack" it would be in line with other AE specials to say "one fighting card". But this is your set, and as long as the language is self-consistent, I see no need for it to be strictly in line with the game as printed.
Not a Scratch - Looks good. Can't find anything to nit-pick here.
No Restraints - Maybe capitalize "reserve". Also, the strength icon is a little low, it is starting to run into the character name.
Lethal Training - The fighting icon is a little low, it is starting to run into the character name.
Deal with the Devil - Looks good. Isn't there another OP card called "Deal With The Devil" though? Might get confusing if there is.
Pitt - I didn't notice the "kill or be killed" in the lower right of Pitt before. Awesome! He looks good. No nit-picks.
Widow Maker - Says "peranent" instead of "permanent".
Sixth Sense - Looks good. No nit-picks.
Hunger for Pain - Nothing again.
Cunning Savage - The ability text is floating a little far to the left into the fighting icon.
Boom Stick - Is it supposed to say "powercard" and not "power card"? Otherwise it looks great!
Bled Out - First, is this "Bled Out" or "Bleed Out"? "powercards" is all one word here, so ignore the previous comment. Internal consistency is king!
Big Brother - I think you want the "b" in "brother" capitalized.
Miss Sinister - Awesome!
Black Queen - I think there should be a period at the end of the first sentence in the ability text.
Cloning Process - Place is capitalized, but play isn't. Is that intentional?
Cold-Hearted Enemy - Seems fine, nothing I can see to nit-pick.
Mental Override - Yup, also fine.
DNA Implants - Totally boss.
Sinister Seduction - Should "special" be capitalized?
Diamond Form - Looks good.
The Hellfire Clubs - All look good!
Daken - Looking good... nothing to nit-pick here...
Animalistic Healing - Should probably have an apostrophe in "Dakens" to be "Daken's".
Hi Dad - Looks good.
Hulk Buster - Looks good. Didn't know Daken kicked the snot out of Skaar, Son of Hulk. That's cool. I want to read that.
Target File - Looks good, there's no apostrophe so maybe Animalistic Healing is fine too.
Umm... No - Looks great!
Vengeance - Looks good. I hated Franken-Castle. That was the worst. I'm glad Daken apparently diced him up.
Dark Wolverine - Maybe capitalize "Level" in the first line?
Hidden Claws - Ditto.
Death's Head II - Looks solid.
P-38 - Looks good.
I'll Be Back - Also looks good.
Hand Cannon - Boss.
Evade - Has two periods at the end after "attack".
Double Tap - Looks good.
Cranial Siphon - Yup, also good.
Blowback - Neat. Looks good.
Biomech Apparatus - Also looks good.
Witchblade - RAWR! She's so OP! Just kidding, she's awesome, but triple-7's on defense is totally amazing.
The Darkness - There's no period in the ability text.
Thanks for the feedback doktor. Ill address them all when I get time this next week. Never seems to be enough time in the day these last week to even touch the set. Sigh... All in good time I guess. Thanks again.
its worth the wait
Updated cards from feedback & a new addition to the roster.
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(chuu put these together for me before I got started making them, thanks again for all your help!)
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(Thank you chuu for your help on Black Rose image!)
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Let me know what you guys think.
Heavy handed stats & specials, but we know where you're coming from, cyber. But another character I've never seen done! Impressive!
(I'd put him in the 19-21 total point range, on the lower end with an IA like that.)
Hello all... Hopefully Ill be able to get back up & running with the set. Just wanted to stop in & say hello. Glad to see the forum alive & well. Missed this place!