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Title: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: fennshysa on December 07, 2017, 11:42:25 AM
Yeah, I"m quite unfocused at the moment.....

I've decided Justa's description of these characters is better than mine. I was calling them themed characters, gimmick is probably a better description.  This guy's gimmick is all about upping your teams levels.

High Evolutionary      6   2   5   8   21 (https://i.imgur.com/WiXGGpf.jpg)

High Evolutionary   Artificial Evolution (https://i.imgur.com/2g29WW3.jpg)   
All of High Evolutionary's Team's Special cards are doubled when determining Venture Total this battle.

High Evolutionary   Devolution    (https://i.imgur.com/sTOs0Jr.jpg)
Target opponent may not play Specials for remainder of battle.

High Evolutionary   Evolutionary Accelerator (https://i.imgur.com/9eGsOFm.jpg)   
Target Teammate's Energy, Fighting or Strength Rating increases to 7 for remainder of game.

High Evolutionary   Evolutionary Exoskeleton (https://i.imgur.com/Zd0gbIw.jpg)   
High Evolutionary's Strength Rating increases to 7 for remainder of game.

High Evolutionary   Genetic Enhancement    (https://i.imgur.com/ZaOequJ.jpg)
High Evolutionary's team is +1 to all numeric Special cards for remainder of battle. Bonus not applied to damage or Venture total. May be played from Reserve.

High Evolutionary   Isotope E (https://i.imgur.com/exvoKzp.jpg)
Play during battle. High Evolutionary may exchange this card for any 1 Special card in Dead Pile not playable by High Evolutionary and play it immediately.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: justa on December 07, 2017, 03:48:21 PM
gimmick, theme, primary function ... they're all pretty much the same.  your High Evolutionary is different than the other 2 versions i've seen, yet remarkably similar.  the grid increases fit him.  seems a little strange to have no numerical attack specials (other than possibly Isotope E), but that goes with his character too.  he's usually more concerned with his current line of research than with attacking others.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: fennshysa on October 03, 2018, 10:14:09 AM
I've been working on some new characters again. Hope to have a lot done eventually.  1st of the new batch is the Scott Lang Ant-Man. Modeled him after the X-BAbies, he won't take up a lot of space on your team, though i don't think his Specials are as nice as the X-Babies.


Ant-Man      2   5   3   5   15 (https://imgur.com/y4dlm9h)
May not be Spectrum or Cumulative KO'd with Special cards.

Ant-Man   Ant Army (https://imgur.com/Iz7BG8d)   
Draw one card for each card discarded this battle, including duplicate and unusable cards. Do not discard if duplicate.

Ant-Man   Shrink And Hide    (https://imgur.com/0v2eud7)
Avoid 1 attack.

Ant-Man   Small Investigation (https://imgur.com/YE6l1j6)   
Look at top 8 cards of Opponent's Draw Pile and choose any 4 cards. Reshuffle Draw Pile. Put four chosen cards on top of Draw Pile.

Ant-Man   The Wasp    (https://imgur.com/8FEL69z)
Acts as a level 4 Intellect attack. Teammate may play 1 additional Special Card.

Ant-Man   Thief    (https://imgur.com/YWiDYy0)
Sort through opponent's Power Pack and remove any 3 cards of Ant-Man's choice. Discard chosen cards into Dead Pile. Reshuffle Power Pack.

Ant-Man   Tiny Terror    (https://imgur.com/NYufcFj)
Opponent must discard a number of cards equal to the number of Mission cards Opponent Ventured this battle. Cards may be Placed or in Hand.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: justa on October 03, 2018, 10:15:09 PM
not sure I like the grid, but I like the intent.  Scott Lang was kinda small time compared to most characters, it was just the situations that made him look good.  seems card-advantage orientated, which is a little different - it does have a Mojoworld sort of flavor.  the AG (avoid 1 attack) is the only repeat mechanic of the bunch.
I almost want to move a point from his intellect to his fighting, but not quite............
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: fennshysa on October 05, 2018, 10:07:34 AM
He just seemed like a good character to stylize like the X-Babies.  His specials aren't as good, but I think the inherent is better.  I should have Baron Zemo and Ares done soon.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: justa on October 07, 2018, 04:29:44 PM
if you've got more coming, i'll put a post in so that i'll see them.  I've seen 2 versions of Zemo & a partial of Ares, so i'm looking forward to them.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: fennshysa on November 07, 2018, 12:12:38 PM
When you've got a couple hundred characters it becomes a little harder to make each character seem different from ones that have been done before. Hopefully these aren't too close to any other characters. I must have missed uploading Ares - Battle Hungry, i'll get that later today hopefully.

Crystal's character card is done except for needing an inherent ability. I have art and a pretty good idea of text for Hercules' Specials so i went ahead and posted them. I just haven't put them together yet.

I also have a card for the Black Knight that i need an inherent ability for if anyone has an idea.....
Black Knight      3   7   3   5   (18)


Ares      2   8   7   4   21 (https://imgur.com/B2WntKW)

Ares   Battle Hungry (https://imgur.com/u1FsKCl)
Acts as a level 7 Fighting attack.

Ares   Battlefield Manipulation (https://imgur.com/Xr3cWw0)
Ares team is +2 to Venture Total for remainder of game

Ares   Bisecting Blow (https://imgur.com/6COIsyD)
Acts as a level 5 Fighting attack. If successful, Target Character may not play Activator cards for remainder of battle.

Ares   God Of War (https://imgur.com/eqyh5TA)
Play during battle. For remainder of battle, any Special card played must be a Special card that acts as an attack. Other Special cards may not be played.

Ares   Olympian (https://imgur.com/ZlbdxKD)
Avoid 1 attack with a Fighting icon. No Fighting Power cards may be played against Ares's team for remainder of battle.

Ares   Sibling Rivalry (https://imgur.com/i7bAPF6)
Only Ares and Target Character may attack, be attacked or defend this battle. Neither player may concede this battle.


Baron Zemo      1   7   4   7   19 (https://imgur.com/XpqS53v)

Baron Zemo   Compound X (https://imgur.com/VtV9kXH)   
Remove up to 2 Hits that each have more than one icon each from Baron Zemo's Permanent Record.

Baron Zemo   Martial Training (https://imgur.com/cPWIMbN)   
Acts as level 8 Energy, Strength, or Fighting attack.

Baron Zemo   Master Manipulator (https://imgur.com/DRDMyJP)   
Baron Zemo may increase either his team's or opponent's ventured Mission cards by 1.

Baron Zemo   Sacrificial Lambs (https://imgur.com/hUfgG6g)
All attacks made on Baron Zemo are made on target teammate until teammate is KO'd. Teammate may defend.

Baron Zemo   Stolen Moonstones (https://imgur.com/TVPFneF)
Choose one Tactic: Artifact card from Draw pile and place in hand. Cannot be a duplicate. Reshuffle Draw pile.

Baron Zemo   Thunderbolts (https://imgur.com/LHcZ19U)
Acts as a level 6 Intellect attack. If successful opponent -4 to Venture total.

Crystal      7   3   3   3   16 (https://imgur.com/hzLw4BN)

Crystal   Aerokinesis (https://imgur.com/B7cboII)
Avoid 1 attack.

Crystal   Elemental Anger (https://imgur.com/zROljzP)
Acts as a level 9 Energy attack.

Crystal   Geokinesis    (https://imgur.com/WleG6TU)
Acts as a level 4 Fighting attack against Target Character, or level 8 Any-Power attack against Target Battlesite.

Crystal   Inhuman Ambassador (https://imgur.com/srxGvMh)
Opponent's Team with Power Grid of 7 or 8 in Power Type of Crystal's choice may not use Power cards of that Power Type to attack for remainder of battle.

Crystal   Inhuman Elemental (https://imgur.com/o1GJH2f)
Sort through Power Pack card by card. Put the first 3 cards with Energy icons in Hand. May keep duplicates. Reshuffle Power Pack.

Crystal   Pyrokinesis (https://imgur.com/oo945Iw)
Acts as a level 5 Energy attack. May not be defended with a Special card.

Hercules      1   6   8   3   18 (https://imgur.com/4padtTm)

Hercules   Avenger  (https://imgur.com/pjmmDko)
Acts as a level 4 Strength attack. Teammate may combine with 1 Fighting card for a single attack.

Hercules   Champion  (https://imgur.com/w0bS3O5)
Acts as a level 4 Intellect attack. Teammate may play 1 additional Special card.

Hercules   Demigod  (https://imgur.com/X3oBpuy)
Avoid 1 attack. May not be attacked for remainder of battle.

Hercules   Jovial Bruiser  (https://imgur.com/VIZnrzl)
Acts as a level 6 Fighting or Strength attack.

Hercules   Hercules Unchained  (https://imgur.com/pui4CDl)
Opponent must immediately discard all Special cards in play that affect the "remainder of the Battle" or the "remainder of the Game".

Hercules   Throw Back A Pint  (https://imgur.com/GcF3wo0)
Draw 3 cards. Discard duplicates.

Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: justa on November 08, 2018, 06:52:24 PM
a nice take on some rarely seen characters, fenn.  good art choices- I don't recognize a lot of the art because i'm not that up on my reading of modern day comics.
I totally hear you about making characters different.  sticking to legacy card mechanics doesn't help.  my favorite method to ensure differences is to go through the cards made by other people and see what new mechanics or tweaks to existing mechanics they have come up with.  eventually I felt comfortable enough with it to try a few variations of my own.  combining effects, or cards that allow a choosing of effects is also a way to come up with a character that is different from most others.

a few comments on the cards:  take them with a grain of salt, as they are only the first-look opinion of one person.

Black Knight - i've seen him done twice, and neither one had an IA.  i would suggest an IA that gives him some sort of Intellect boost.  he is arguably higher than 5I.

Ares - Battle Hungry makes him a beast for a Rush team.  and Sibling Rivalry is a great fit for the title matching the mechanic.

Zemo - I can't say i'm real comfortable with his grid.  his high usage of firearms should rate him at least a 2 in E, and I don't think he should get a 7 in both F & I.  depending on which point in time you look at him from, I can see a 6 & a 7, either way fits an era.  and Martial Training doesn't seem to fit in several ways.  A) the title is a little dull & does not match the mechanic (Full-On Blitz maybe?); B) as a 3-color 8, I think EFI is more appropriate than EFS.  only one of his off-colors should be covered, not both; C) the mechanic fits the Thunderbolts better (resources to make it happen), while the HO mechanic can fit the art of Martial Training (Full-On Blitz).

Crystal - the only IA i've seen for her (not counting legacy) is that Energy power cards on her PR don't count for KO.  the kill shot (either Spectrum or Cumulative) can be an Ep, but otherwise they are a waste to attack her with.  it accentuates her energy power without giving her an 8.  the OC mechanic (Inhuman Elemental) fits her very well.  and one of my OP pet peeves, i find Inhuman Ambassador (HE) totally useless in a deck without at least a DTR attached.  so they can't attack; they can use them to defend, and you've just given them a card advantage.

Herc - i thought Herc shrugged off a lot of small attacks the even Hulk would defend against.  might be worth a 2E, since his "demigod-ness" acts like the healing factor for Wolverine or Sabretooth.

overall, good work, fennshysa.  I appreciate the effort, and you sharing the work you've done.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: fennshysa on January 26, 2019, 01:02:55 PM
Thank you for the ideas. I didn't listen this time but I appreciate you throwing them out. I agree that some stat could probably be higher but i've been trying to keep some stats down if they are not obviously needed to keep grid costs reasonable. 

I added the Crystal Character card, the missing Ares card and the missing Hercules cards to my post above.

I have Black Knight, Sentry and Speedball ready now.


I experimented with the double function cards here. They might be a little too much. Focused more on his 90s appearances and themes.
Black Knight      3   7   3   5   18 (https://imgur.com/eRMz1xK)
Attacks made with Power Cards may not be defended by cards from a Battlesite.

Black Knight   Ebony Blade    (https://imgur.com/eNDvWX5)
Acts as a level 4 Fighting attack. OR Avoid 1 Energy or Fighting attack.
   
Black Knight   Elven Armor    (https://imgur.com/4iRIYxf)
Avoid 1 Strength or Intellect attack. OR Sort through Power Pack card by card. Put the first card with a Strength or Intellect icon in Hand. May keep duplicates. Reshuffle Power Pack.

Black Knight   Gann Josin    (https://imgur.com/SB8ut19)
Play during battle. Black Knight may defend Sersi for remainder of game.

Black Knight   Swordsman (https://imgur.com/rcL8YJe)   
Acts as a level 7 Fighting attack. If successful, Target Character may not use cards with Fighting icon for remainder of battle.

Black Knight   Ultraforce    (https://imgur.com/591vxgT)
Opponent's team may not use cards with a Fighting icon for reminder of battle.

Black Knight   Winged Steed    (https://imgur.com/NdZBH01)
Acts as a level 4 Fighting attack, may be played from Reserve. If successful, Black Knight may continue to attack while in Reserve.    



For the Sentry i made him a dual 8 with powerful specials but just about everything has a negative effect to it to represent his mental struggles and the Void. He's definitely a go for the KO character. I still need 1 more special for him. I might just make the Golden Guardian a plain 4x attack, make one more. unless someone has another idea.......
Sentry      8   1   8   5   22 (https://imgur.com/AY2SJjd)
Attacks made with Energy and Intellect Power cards do not count to Venture Total.

Sentry   Direct Assault    (https://imgur.com/TO2jtXE)
Acts as a level 2 Intellect attack. If successful, acts as a level 8 Strength Hit. Hit goes on Target Character's Permanent Record. Does not count for Venture Total.

Sentry   Forgotten Hero    (https://imgur.com/96MRORy)
Play during battle. At the end of the battle, all Hits from The Current Battle for all Characters are discarded and not added to the Permanent Record.

Sentry   Golden Guardian   

Sentry   Ill-Advised Attack    (https://imgur.com/PPPcvNu)
Acts as a level 7 Energy or Strength attack. If not successful, Sentry is -2 to attack for remainder of battle.

Sentry   Sunder    (https://imgur.com/U257XjO)
Acts as a level 12 Strength attack. If successful, Sentry or Sentry's teammates may not defend Sentry with Special cards for remainder of game.

Sentry   The Void    (https://imgur.com/171U3p8)
Move any 1 Hit from Sentry to target teammate. Repeat until teammate is KO'd or all hits are on teammate. Does not affect Venture Total. Sentry may not play or contribute to Teamwork attacks or play or be targeted by Special cards with the word "teammate" for remainder of game.

Speedball gets the level 8 for defense to represent how its almost impossible to hurt him when he's bubbled up. His specials may be a bit underpowered but are perfect for him in my opinion. I wish i could have used more older art, but it was hard to find good stuff. Thankfully Civil War provided some good art.
Speedball      6   6   3   3   18    (https://imgur.com/bkgEzzD)
Energy Power Grid is 8 for defense.


Speedball   Kinetic Deflection    (https://imgur.com/OvgsnQm)
Avoid 1 attack with a Strength icon. Speedball may draw 1 card from the top of the Draw Pile. Discard duplicates.

Speedball   Kinetic Field    (https://imgur.com/0tDnhgn)
For remainder of battle, if Speedball can block a Power card attack with an equal value Power card, Speecball's Power card hits attacker.

Speedball   New Warrior (https://imgur.com/wb3XH4E)   
Acts as a level 3 Intellect attack. Each Front Line teammate may make 1 additional attack.

Speedball   Penance    (https://imgur.com/iS8ZT4S)
Acts as a level 3 Energy attack, +1 for each Mission card in Speedball's Defeated Missions Pile.

Speedball   Rebound Effect    (https://imgur.com/fzfYSYe)
Acts as a level 5 Strength attack +1 for each Speedball Special in all character's Permanent Records and Hits From Current Battle.

Speedball   Ricochet    (https://imgur.com/kzWbrs3)
Speedball may make as many Power card attacks as possible. Opponent may defend.


I have some ideas of what i want to do for Justice's cards. I just don't have enough art yet. I'm thinking about picking up the classic New Warriors books on comixoloy and seeing if i can screen capture some good stuff out of there.
Justice      6   4   3   5   18 (https://imgur.com/jJKdMWN)
May defend Teammates with Energy Power cards.


Also, for Mockingbird i'm thinking:
1   7   5   4   17

For an inherent maybe something that gives a bonus against other 6-8 fighting characters?
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: justa on January 28, 2019, 02:41:00 PM
a little slow, but some random comments....
the "X or Y" mechanic is different, though I think steve2275 suggested some years ago (but never made them).
Ebony Blade might be more elegant as a 4 E or F attack, to mirror the avoid part.
good to see at least 1 Reserve-capable card for BK, and Winged Steed is a good choice.
i'll be waiting to see what you do with Sersi.  (never seen her done before)
nice take on Sentry!
not sure of the wording on The Void.  did you mean to limit the opponent's ability to attack him with some cards?  or were you only trying to prevent his teammates from playing cards on him that benefit him (grid increase, attack/defense boost, etc)?  seems like wording such as "may not play, contribute, or benefit from any card with the word 'teammate'" might make more sense.
judging by name alone, "Golden Guardian" says "defend teammate" to me.
same grid for Speedball as your old card, with 8E for defense instead of 7.  fair improvement.
you dropped the 8Any attack special for him - can't say that it fits with your new version anyways, so no great loss.
both Justice & Mockingbird will be new additions to what i've seen done as well.  especially interested to see Mockingbird - go West Coast Avengers!
good work, fennshysa.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: fennshysa on January 28, 2019, 03:31:31 PM
Thank you.
"may not play, contribute, or benefit from any card with the word 'teammate'" That is exactly what I was going for. Thanks. I will change it to that. Golden Guardian makes sense as a teammate avoid, I'll probably go with that.

I like the symetry of the idea for Ebon Blade, I wonder if that might be too good on a non-OPD. I was trying to keep the X or Y choice cards to less useful cards you might not add to your deck if they were on there own.  Do you think it would be OK?


Mockingbird is actually coming together well. I think for the Inherent I'll go witha version Havoks +1 vs grid 7 or 8.

I also came up with a couple new ideas I need feedback on. Thinking of a way to encourage use of less useful cards i came up with these as ideas for "Avenger" and "Agent of SHIELD" for Mockingbird:
A. Play during battle, for remainder of game Mockingbird's Power cards are +1 to defense for each AC, AD, AG and AH Special card played by Mockingbird's team that battle.
B. Play during battle, for remainder of game Mockingbird's Power cards are +1 to attack for each AA, AB, AE and GJ Special card played by Mockingbird's team that battle.
Do you think these would be worth playing? Or are the too much? (I don't think so.) Should they be combined into 1 OPD version?

Also, I came up with this as a Spy type special. "Play during battle, shuffle into opponent's Reserve Deck. When drawn by opponent they must reveal Hand, you choose 1 card to discard and opponent's characters are -1 to all actions for remainder of battle." OPD
It is pretty good. 1st you get to see hand (though they don't have to play open handed), 2nd its a loss of 2 cards (1 you choose) 3rd the -1 to all actions. Each aspect is less than the equivilent specials but they all happen at once. However, you don't know when if at all it will activate. It could get shuffled around and never come up.
Thoughts?

Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: justa on January 28, 2019, 04:08:24 PM
to tamp down Ebony Blade and keep it non-OPD,  keep it 4F attack or avoid 1 Fighting attack.   only 1 color for each case.

on the power card boost specials, the thought is great, but I don't think they would play that well.  by the time you get the cards out to utilize the boost, you won't have much to play to get the benefit.  otherwise its just handing over a card advantage for marginal gain.  maybe for each card visible on table (placed, HCB, PR)?  might be too much.  or maybe +1 per visible X icon on (player/opponent)'s side of the table?  player's Intellect icons for defensive boost, opponent's Fighting icons for offensive boost?  a gedanken-experiment to be sure.

I think the Spy card shows promise.  definitely OPD as is, so the name/art should match up with one big-ass spy mission.  but I always get uncomfortable putting cards in opponent's deck, or attacking with opponent's cards.  I played with the kids mostly, so I was always the one who had to remember whose cards were whose.  (I could afford deck protectors for everybody.)
certainly something new to try.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: fennshysa on March 06, 2019, 02:10:57 PM
I appreciate your rewording on The Void. That got me exactly to what i was going for. So here are the final 2 cards for Sentry.

Sentry   Golden Guardian (https://imgur.com/yi7neWb)
Teammate may avoid any numerical attack.

Sentry   The Void (https://imgur.com/MNDs9hi)
Move any 1 Hit from Sentry to target teammate. Repeat until teammate is KO'd or all hits are on teammate. Does not affect Venture Total. Sentry may not play, contribute, or benefit from any card with the word "teammate", "teamwork" or "ally" for remanider of game.



For Mockingbird I had combined the defensive and offensive bonus from the basic special cards onto one card but you were right, it still didn't work. Then i realized make it simpler and make it a Venture Total bonus for all the codes listed.

Mockingbird      1   7   5   4   17 (https://imgur.com/p56AjqK)
+1 to all attacks vs. Characters with Fighting Power Grid 7 or 8. May be included on a team with Avengers Compound or The Hellicarrier as a Homebase.

Mockingbird   Agent Of SHIELD (https://imgur.com/ns3B9C8)
Play during battle, for remainder of game Mockingbird's Venture Total is +1 for each AA, AB, AC, AD, AE, AG, AH and GJ Special card played by Mockingbird's team that battle.

Mockingbird   The Avenging Archer (https://imgur.com/aOF98IR)
Mockingbird may Place and play any Hawkeye Special cards for remainder of game.

Mockingbird   Battle Staves (https://imgur.com/UdBn4LB)
Acts as a level 4 Fighting attack. May make 1 additional attack.

Mockingbird   Dodge (https://imgur.com/Yo6I4AE)
Avoid 1 attack.

Mockingbird   Indomitable Spirit (https://imgur.com/hgZwXH9)
If Mockingbird has more cards in Defeated Mission Pile than opponent, she is +2 to all actions for remainder of battle and all Mockingbird's Special cards are doubled when determining Venture total this battle.

Mockingbird   Undercover Operative (https://imgur.com/2Vd40HU)
Play during battle, shuffle into opponent's Reserve Deck. When drawn by opponent they must reveal Hand, you choose 1 card to discard and opponent's characters are -1 to all actions for remainder of battle.



Instead of just calling her Namorita i decided to go with the codename she ended up with later, Kymaera.  Of course i decided that after i had finished just about all her cards. So I had to go back and change them, including this.....

Crash Pad (https://imgur.com/ws50sqO)   
Firestar   
Justice   
Kymaera
Night Thrasher   
Nova   
Speedball   
Once per battle, may draw 1 card from Draw Pile after playing a Training card, discard duplicates. If used as a battlesite, may play New Warriors cards from under here.

I had two good pictures to use so i just went ahead and made two versions, same text and stats, just different pictures.
Kymaera (https://imgur.com/Wx5OT7u)      2   4   7   3   16   
May remove 1 Hit from Permanent Record when "Fully Hydrated" is played.

Kymaera (https://imgur.com/KinOb2f)      2   4   7   3   16   
May remove 1 Hit from Permanent Record when "Fully Hydrated" is played.


I also tried a new type of defensive special with her War Armor (it will be repeated with Night Thrasher) and reused the special from Freefall in the Image set.

Kymaera   Atlantean War Armor    (https://imgur.com/dKQomTc)
Avoid 1 attack with a Strength icon. Kymaera is +2 to defense for remainder of battle.

Daughter Of The Deep (https://imgur.com/cdoxsS7)   
Draw the top cards of your Power Pack and Draw Pile. May keep duplicates. Opponent must discard the top card of their Draw Pile if you did not draw any duplicates.

Fully Hydrated (https://imgur.com/ws4yoWd)
Acts as a level 9 Strength or Fighting attack.

New Warrior (https://imgur.com/mHBV2Zj)
Acts as a level 4 Energy attack. May make 1 additional attack.

Secondary Mutation (https://imgur.com/er5o0pM)
Discard 1 Strength Power card usable by Kymaera to draw 4 cards from top of the Draw Pile. May keep duplicates.

Winged Feet (https://imgur.com/sKlkgbX)
Only Energy attacks may be played against Kymaera for remainder of battle.


Which brings us to another New Warrior. He was never a favorite character but i've always had a soft spot for him. I always saw him as the character who really was a hero. He would always do the right thing or at least try.

Justice (https://imgur.com/j2OBahY)      6   4   3   5   18   
May defend Teammates with Energy Power cards.

Justice   Hero    (https://imgur.com/fwD4mhY)
Add 7 to Venture total for this battle.

Justice   Major Victory, Future Self (https://imgur.com/jDYyx53)   
Acts as a level 7 Fighting attack. If successful, Justice may move 1 Mission Card from the Defeated Missions Pile to the Reserve Missions Pile.

Justice   New Warrior (https://imgur.com/nk5jAUE)   
Acts as a level 3 Intellect attack. Each Front Line teammate may make 1 additional attack.

Justice   Team Player (https://imgur.com/TeI1P65)   
Target Character may follow up a Universe: Teamwork card with any Power card, regardless of Power Type.

Justice   Telekinetic Bolt    (https://imgur.com/KqE6lnQ)
Acts as a level 6 Energy attack. Cannot be defended by a card with a Fighting icon.

Justice   TK Shield (https://imgur.com/VlDVa00)
Justice or teammate may avoid 1 attack of 6 or less. May be played from Reserve.


Which leaves just 1 of the original New Warriors. I waffled between 7 and 6 Fighting but decided on the 7.

Night Thrasher (https://imgur.com/32C8VIx)      2   7   3   4   16   
Once per battle, may draw 1 card from Draw Pile after playing an Ally card, discard duplicates.

Night Thrasher   Hot Temper (https://imgur.com/eUSF6Ty)   
Play when Opponent concedes battle. Opponent may not concede battle.

Night Thrasher   Million Dollar Armor (https://imgur.com/RmTD4Qh)   
Choose one Night Thrasher Special from Draw Pile and place in hand. Cannot be a duplicate. Reshuffle Draw Pile.

Night Thrasher   Mobile Attack (https://imgur.com/VYinvF5)
Acts as a level 6 Fighting attack. May be used against Character in Reserve, who may defend.

Night Thrasher   Skateboard (https://imgur.com/2qnSSYV)   
Avoid 1 attack with an Energy icon. Night Thrasher is +2 to defense for remainder of battle.

Night Thrasher   War On Crime (https://imgur.com/VSWBAqs)
Acts as a level 4 Fighting or Strength attack. Attack not affected by Special cards already in play.

Night Thrasher   Warriors Founder (https://imgur.com/bI3Glyp)
Acts as a level 8 Intellect attack, +1 for each "New Warrior" special in opposing character's Permanent Records and Hits from Current Battle.

I would like to add Rage to the set also, but i'm not sure if i'll be able to get enough good pictures together for cards for him.


Next we have The Winter Soldier. I apologize for any inaccuracies. I've barely read a story Mr Barnes in it, my exposure to him comes from the MCU. Tried out a new card here too.

Winter Soldier (https://imgur.com/osWup2B)      4   8   5   3   20

Winter Soldier   Assassin (https://imgur.com/XugADb4)
Acts as a level 6 Any-Power attack. If successful, Target Character is KO'd by next level 2 Fighting Power Card Hit, regardless of Inherent Abilities and other Special cards.

Winter Soldier   Cybernetic Arm    (https://imgur.com/pMc3xDj)
Acts as a level 4 Strength attack. May make 1 additional attack.

Winter Soldier   Fight Dirty    (https://imgur.com/kW13YJG)
Winter Soldier's team's Basic Universe cards used to attack count toward Damage and Venture Total for remainder of game.

Winter Soldier   Master Marksman (https://imgur.com/4RDUPPW)
Acts as a level 4 Energy attack, may be played from Reserve. If successful, Winter Soldier may continue to attack while in Reserve.

Winter Soldier   Infiltrate (https://imgur.com/8W6sxzD)
Draw 2 cards from opponent's Power Pack. Subtract the total from opponent's Venture Total this battle. Discard both Power cards to the Dead Pile.

Winter Soldier   Take Cover (https://imgur.com/Lmcr3b8)   
Avoid 1 attack. May not be attacked for remainder of battle.

Also, an Avengers set didn't' seem right without a Masters Of Evil team character. Granted, there are the Thunderbolts, and I already added Enchantress and Klaw in the villains set and Zemo in this one but it let me add Whirlwind, Melter and Radioactive Man to Overpower.

Masters Of Evil (https://imgur.com/4N8nA2R)      7   4   4   6

Masters Of Evil   Baron Zemo (https://imgur.com/Qw8Dq1i)
Avoids all attacks from 1 Teamwork card, or Target Character must discard 1 Placed Teamwork card.

Masters Of Evil   Enchantress (https://imgur.com/ELc6cAK)
Acts as a level 5 Energy attack. If successful, may immediately make an additional attack against target's teammate using any card placed to target.

Masters Of Evil   Klaw    (https://imgur.com/Hii8efC)
Acts as a level 7 Energy attack. If successful, target hero must immediately discard 1 placed card.

Masters Of Evil   Melter (https://imgur.com/E2OyXkk)
Opponent must discard 1 placed card of Masters of Evil's choice.

Masters Of Evil   Radioactive Man    (https://imgur.com/FWCWSLh)
Acts as a level 6 Energy or Strength attack.

Masters Of Evil   Whirlwind (https://imgur.com/ivgByvs)
Acts as a level 2 Fighting attack. May make 2 additional attacks.

Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: justa on March 07, 2019, 11:17:24 PM
a lot to comment on...
first comment is that you've blazed some new ground, both in character selection and in mechanics - I gotta lovit!
random comments from this 1 viewer....:
on "The Void" change:  i'm not sure why you added {, "teamwork" or "ally"} to the text.  the word "teammate" shows up on both Teamwork and Ally cards, and on Doubleshot cards as well, so they are covered.
on Agent of SHEILD:  it may be cumbersome to keep track of, but it works better than an action bonus
on The Avenging Archer:  sweet dodge for a team-up - Mockingbird, Hawkeye, Green Arrow, & Black Canary.
on Atlantean War Armor & Skateboard:  I like the thought, but I feel they might be a tad too much.  but then again, maybe not.  only play testing would tell.
on Daughter of the Deep:  it seems too much to not be OPD.  you get 2 cards for playing it, plus opponent discards 1 if they were not duplicates - potential "Draw 3" (HQ) there.  discarding dupes would dull it some, but i'm still not sure that even that would make it non-OPD.
on Justice:  I was more into Major Vic, so i'll let the reboot go.
on Warrior's Founder:  if my assumption is correct, you mean any hit on any character.  the words {opposing character's} would read better {all opposing characters'} to clarify that intent.
on Infiltrate:  is that intended to be the top 2 cards of the Power Pack, or 2 cards at random?
on Winter Soldier's grid:  where does the 4E come from?
on Masters of Evil: heh heh heh ...
all in all fenn, nice.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: fennshysa on March 08, 2019, 10:38:23 PM
I always welcome your observations.
You are absolutely right about the wording of Void being redundant. I was lazy and didn't check wording on cards, which means i have to change it again.  I should have just checked.
They symmetry with Green Arrow/Black Canary & Hawkeye/Mockingbird was definitely in my mind when i made that one.
The plus 2 could end up being  a bit much but i don't think so.
You could be right about Daughter of the Deep but as with Freefall, i'm sticking with it.
Warrior's Founder, You are correct about what i wanted. I'll reword that.
Infiltrate.... Good question, i'll have to decide. (missed that)
As to the 4 Energy for the Winter Soldier, i have no idea.  :-[ Punisher is 3. 3 sounds good.

Thanks again.

As for what's left, I think i have enough to do Rage. Sersi has a character card and 2 specials but i'm having trouble finding enough art for the rest. I'm planning on a SHIELD (nineties style, no Coulson or agents of shield stuff; Clay Quartermain, GW Bridge, Maria Hill, etc.) Maybe a Ronin Variant/Clone Character.  Another location or aspect or too and it's about wrapped up.

Then i'm heading back to the X-Men set. I've got enough art to do Gideon. I'd like to squeeze in an Aurora & Northstar, Generation X, Hellions and maybe Old Man Logan, X-23 and Fantomex

After that i'm not sure if i might go back to DC for a 4th set or do some more Marvel. I've got Star Wars CCG stuff floating around in my head too.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: justa on March 09, 2019, 04:30:50 PM
I don't mean to cause you more work - I justa have questions and ideas sometimes, and thought i'd share them.

Justice, Kymaera, Mockingbird, and Night Thrasher were all the 1st time I've seen them done.  Winter Soldier I've seen done, but only as Bucky Barnes with variant character cards.  Masters of Evil (as a team) has been done twice.

yeah, a 3 Energy for WS is much more in line with OP, IMHO.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: Arctursa on March 25, 2019, 10:17:02 PM
I am glad to finally see the Masters. I find all the cards to be good and balanced.  I know we had talked about them in e-mails. I think if you are ok I will mock them up in my frames but keep the designs.  I Really look forward to seeing the file on this and the Cosmic set when finished.

Just need to find time to pick Justa's brain about some characters Ive yet to see made that I am considering tinkering with but I Dont want to hijack the thread. I sometimes wish I had seen half the cards and creations he has seen.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: justa on March 25, 2019, 10:56:43 PM
feel free to e-mail me with any questions you may have.  I might even have a few spots of brain left worth picking at.  but I had the foresight to set up an excel file, so I may even have answers.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: fennshysa on May 21, 2019, 10:52:03 AM
A few more here.

Yes, so far he's mostly broken links.
Ronin (https://imgur.com/SOofCkW)      3   7   3   3   16   
May play any Non-One-Per-Deck Hawkeye, Blade or Echo Special Cards.

Technically she was probably and 8 Energy but i never really saw her that way. The specials definitely focus on the events of the 90s
Sersi    (https://imgur.com/cSaJ6zk)   7   2   6   5   20   
May be included on a team with Avengers Mansion as a Homebase.

Sersi   Energy Blast (https://imgur.com/hYURy3v)
Acts as a level 4 Energy attack. May make 1 additional attack.

Sersi   Eternal (https://imgur.com/OXFIbOL)
Sersi's hits to K.O. number is increased to 30.

Sersi   Gann Josin (https://imgur.com/sALGYH9)
Play during battle. Sersi may defend Black Knight for remainder of game.

Sersi   Illusion (https://imgur.com/SEF83xt)
For remainder of battle, any Special played by Sersi or Sersi's teammates may not be Negated until "Illusion" is Negated.

Sersi   Mahd Wy'ry (https://imgur.com/5lPDoXz)
Acts as a level 9 Energy attack. If successful, Sersi or Sersi's teammates may not defend Sersi with Special cards for remainder of game.

Sersi   Transmutate (https://imgur.com/nxg10Yu)
Play during battle. For remainder of game, during the Discard Phase, Sersi may exchange a Power card from hand with a Power card in Power Pack. Card must be a different type and of equal or lesser value. Reshuffle Power Pack.



SHIELD (https://imgur.com/Lum7smP)      4   6   3   7   20   
May be included on a team with The Hellicarrier as a Homebase.

SHIELD   Agent Coulson (https://imgur.com/isIbnE3)
Choose one Any Character Special or Activator card from Draw Pile and place in hand. Cannot be a duplicate. Reshuffle Draw Pile.

SHIELD   Dum Dum Dugan (https://imgur.com/tTImmCJ)
Acts as a level 4 Fighting attack. Teammate may combine with 1 Intellect card for a single attack.

SHIELD   GW Bridge (https://imgur.com/ClZnjLL)
Acts as a level 5 Intellect attack. If successful, Opponent must discard all cards with a Strength icon from hand.

SHIELD   LMD (https://imgur.com/8Q0umiE)
Play during battle. For remainder of game, any attack made on S.H.I.E.L.D. may be moved to LMD. S.H.I.E.L.D.'s team may not defend. LMD K.O.'d with 1 Hit.

SHIELD   Maria Hill (https://imgur.com/Fw9sGe3)
Acts as a level 5 Intellect attack. If successful, S.H.I.E.L.D. may sort through Draw Pile, select any S.H.I.E.L.D. Special card and play it immediately. Reshuffle Draw Pile.

SHIELD   Sharon Carter (https://imgur.com/mkcp7Mv)
Acts as a level 5 Energy attack. If successful, S.H.I.E.L.D. may not attack or be attacked for remainder of battle.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: justa on May 22, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
Ronin:  are you planning on doing Blade or Echo?  I've seen Blade once, but not Echo.
Sersi:  I expected an 8E for her.  But I can see where another point might over-power her.
SHIELD:  4th set of Specials I've seen for them, and they all are different, yet similar.
looks good, Fenn.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: fennshysa on May 22, 2019, 10:07:16 PM
Eventually the Echo and Blade cards...

I had Sersi as an 8 the whole time I was working on the Avengers set, that's what the wiki would classify here as. But she just didn't feel like and 8 Energy character to me.

I wanted Quartermain instead of Coulson but I could never find a good picture for him.
Title: Re: Avengers Overpower Set
Post by: justa on May 24, 2019, 07:24:15 PM
it's all good.  looking forward to Blade (1 version) and Echo (none).