On GDMJR's checklists, he provided a listing of 18 cards that were oddities, cards that had some very minor printing errors but were replicated.
I've looked at the list and by digging through archives, I've been able to determine what makes them oddities, I'm still missing some deception on a few:
QuotePowerSurge "Silver" Specials like
- Mr. Sinister Power Scheme - blacks look very faded, bottom of card is washed out
- Namor Atlantis Attacks - black hair is no longer black
- Super Skrull Immitation; -completely grey on the right side
IQ "Pink" Specials like
- Beast Brilliant Deduction - pink @ AS part of BEAST
- Henry Pym Yellowjacket - pink @ bottom-left corner of image
- Kingpin Crime Magnate
- Magneto Magnetic Devastation
- Spider-Man Science Whiz
Classic "Pink" cards like
- Superpatriot - pink dots on shoulder
- Psycho-Man Fear
- Thunderbolts Techno
"Yellow" cards like
- Bullseye Precision Shot
- Black Panther Jungle Savvy
- Kazar Jungle Savvy
- ROM/Turbo Double Shot - yellow on DOUBLE SHOT
Image starter deck "Moire-less"
- Grifter Bull's-Eye Shot - card has some dots, other is smooth gradient background
- Zealot Warrior Soul - card has some dots, other is smooth gradient background
- Correctly cut Spawn Finite Power
My guesses are:
Spawn's Finite Power has the card borders correctly aligned, can anyone confirm this?
Grifter's Bull's-Eye Shot is the same as Zealot.
I'm mostly interested in these for collection and scanning purposes, if you guys can dig through your collection to find any of these it would be super!
And, if you want to trade some to me, that would be even better!
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EDIT: Pictures!
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Grifter's is the same as Zealot's. Orange King had one on eBay that you should check out if it's still up.
Yeah, it's still up, just wanted to confirm with you guys so I can check if I have it in my collection before purchasing them from him.
I'm a bit confused though, OrangeKing put up the variant has the one with the non-gradient background. The ones that I think I have (majority of) are the ones with the checkered stuff.
Ah, ok. I'll search through my cards this weekend, but I don't think I have any of them.
So, I have The Shi'ar Lillandra Special with misplaced apostrophe ("The Sh'iar") and the correctly spelled one. Is this not an error like the above listed cards? was there a different story with this one?
Quote from: ncannelora on March 25, 2011, 12:36:57 AM
So, I have The Shi'ar Lillandra Special with misplaced apostrophe ("The Sh'iar") and the correctly spelled one. Is this not an error like the above listed cards? was there a different story with this one?
I've differentiated those from the oddities, I call them misprints. The reason is that there is clearly an edit made to the card (misplaced apostrophe is an example). Others include putting the "1" in "any 1 Special" on a new line for Longshot, Scarlet Witch's Sorceress Slam with a Fighting Icon, 5 Fighting from Powersurge (Venom with lamp), 2 Multi with reversed Iron Man, etc.
Azrael's no Trademark is one of those as well. Then there are the promo events that don't have the trademark, but those were specifically printed as promotional items (and the event text is different). Fatal Attraction's Down But Not Out! event does not have a trademark/copyright on the bottom, but
all of them don't have it.
Quote from: Jack on March 25, 2011, 12:47:02 AM
I've differentiated those from the oddities, I call them misprints. The reason is that there is clearly an edit made to the card (misplaced apostrophe is an example). Others include putting the "1" in "any 1 Special" on a new line for Longshot, Scarlet Witch's Sorceress Slam with a Fighting Icon, 5 Fighting from Powersurge (Venom with lamp), 2 Multi with reversed Iron Man, etc.
Azrael's no Trademark is one of those as well. Then there are the promo events that don't have the trademark, but those were specifically printed as promotional items (and the event text is different). Fatal Attraction's Down But Not Out! event does not have a trademark/copyright on the bottom, but all of them don't have it.
Well now I'm confused. I thought the six misprints were Longshot, Scarlet Witch, Azrael, Tessa, Sebastian Shaw and Lilandra.
I've never seen anything about the 5 Fighting or 2 Multi. Were those two just printed differently in PS? I never noticed.
Yeah, the image on the 2m is reversed. Dunno about the 5f.
I do remember that the 3f in Powersurge was printed larger (the image of Longshot is bigger on the card).
And, that totally makes sense, differentiating the misprints and oddities.
Quote from: ncannelora on March 25, 2011, 01:49:58 PM
Yeah, the image on the 2m is reversed. Dunno about the 5f.
I do remember that the 3f in Powersurge was printed larger (the image of Longshot is bigger on the card).
And, that totally makes sense, differentiating the misprints and oddities.
Wow, I've had those cards 15 years and never noticed that. Interesting.
Quote from: Kal-el on March 25, 2011, 01:07:22 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 25, 2011, 12:47:02 AM
I've differentiated those from the oddities, I call them misprints. The reason is that there is clearly an edit made to the card (misplaced apostrophe is an example). Others include putting the "1" in "any 1 Special" on a new line for Longshot, Scarlet Witch's Sorceress Slam with a Fighting Icon, 5 Fighting from Powersurge (Venom with lamp), 2 Multi with reversed Iron Man, etc.
Azrael's no Trademark is one of those as well. Then there are the promo events that don't have the trademark, but those were specifically printed as promotional items (and the event text is different). Fatal Attraction's Down But Not Out! event does not have a trademark/copyright on the bottom, but all of them don't have it.
Well now I'm confused. I thought the six misprints were Longshot, Scarlet Witch, Azrael, Tessa, Sebastian Shaw and Lilandra.
I've never seen anything about the 5 Fighting or 2 Multi. Were those two just printed differently in PS? I never noticed.
I probably confused everyone there. The 5 Fighting and 2 Multi were not misprints, more so inconsistent with the first set of Power cards.
There are subtle differences between the power cards in the Original set and Powersurge. The two that were the most obvious were the 2 Multi (the background image being completely reversed) and the 5 Fighting (missing a lamp).
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The other ones were enlarged images, 3F and 8E are easy to spot.
So the 6 misprints were the one that Kal-el posted. The 18 oddities were the ones I listed. The 5 Fighting, 2 Multi, etc., are just inconsistencies between OP and PS and should not be called a misprint or oddity.
I've got one of the faded Mr. Sinster specials. I always wondered what was up with that.
The entire card has a faded black so it was likely a printing error that went unnoticed. I might actually have the one already, but I'll have to double check.
I definitely have at least one of the scarlet witch misprints. I think I have some of the faded Powersurge cards too. I'd have to do some serious scrutiny to find out if I have any of the other cards listed.
I haven't had time to look at what I actually have and what I need, from what I know and what my brother told me..
QuotePowerSurge "Silver" Specials like
- Mr. Sinister Power Scheme - blacks look very faded, bottom of card is washed out
- Namor Atlantis Attacks - black hair is no longer black
- Super Skrull Immitation; -completely grey on the right side
IQ "Pink" Specials like
- Beast Brilliant Deduction - pink @ AS part of BEAST
- Henry Pym Yellowjacket - pink @ bottom-left corner of image
- Kingpin Crime Magnate
- Magneto Magnetic Devastation
- Spider-Man Science Whiz
Classic "Pink" cards like
- Superpatriot - pink dots on shoulder
- Psycho-Man Fear
- Thunderbolts Techno
"Yellow" cards like
- Bullseye Precision Shot
- Black Panther Jungle Savvy
- Kazar Jungle Savvy
- ROM/Turbo Double Shot - yellow on DOUBLE SHOT
Image starter deck "Moire-less"
- Grifter Bull's-Eye Shot - card has some dots, other is smooth gradient background
- Zealot Warrior Soul - card has some dots, other is smooth gradient background
- Correctly cut Spawn Finite Power
Bolds are the ones we have, non-bolds are the one we could be missing. Open to trades just to get completion of my set and to get these scanned in as a reference.
I recently noticed a card oddity in one of my Silver Surfer specials. On his Energy Projection special, both the AG and Silver Surfer name are blurry, but on closer inspection it appears they are spelled out in double fonts that don't overlap giving them a 3-D type blurry effect. :o The Silver Surfer picture on this card is also fuzzy. Anyone else have something similar?
Quote from: Nate Grey on April 14, 2011, 02:50:35 AM
I recently noticed a card oddity in one of my Silver Surfer specials. On his Energy Projection special, both the AG and Silver Surfer name are blurry, but on closer inspection it appears they are spelled out in double fonts that don't overlap giving them a 3-D type blurry effect. :o The Silver Surfer picture on this card is also fuzzy. Anyone else have something similar?
I have a few cards like that.
Quote from: Nate Grey on April 14, 2011, 02:50:35 AM
I recently noticed a card oddity in one of my Silver Surfer specials. On his Energy Projection special, both the AG and Silver Surfer name are blurry, but on closer inspection it appears they are spelled out in double fonts that don't overlap giving them a 3-D type blurry effect. :o The Silver Surfer picture on this card is also fuzzy. Anyone else have something similar?
The first set is known to have some bad printing, mostly due to the texture of the card and the method they used to print. They were trying to put ink on a glossy surface, which doesn't quite work.
Yeah, but why would anyone expect a company whose primary source of income comes from the selling of cards which they print to be good at printing cards? How did that work out for them in the end, bye-the-way?
Quote from: Palatinus on April 14, 2011, 07:11:13 AM
Quote from: Nate Grey on April 14, 2011, 02:50:35 AM
I recently noticed a card oddity in one of my Silver Surfer specials. On his Energy Projection special, both the AG and Silver Surfer name are blurry, but on closer inspection it appears they are spelled out in double fonts that don't overlap giving them a 3-D type blurry effect. :o The Silver Surfer picture on this card is also fuzzy. Anyone else have something similar?
I have a few cards like that.
Do you remember which ones they were? I think I saw some other blurry cards in my collection so I'm curious if its certain cards or just random ones.
Been card shopping today, picked up a lot of oddities, I'll have pictures up soon.
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IQ "Pink" Specials like
- Beast Brilliant Deduction - pink @ AS part of BEAST
- Henry Pym Yellowjacket - pink @ bottom-left corner of image
- Kingpin Crime Magnate
- Magneto Magnetic Devastation
- Spider-Man Science Whiz
Classic "Pink" cards like
- Superpatriot - pink dots on shoulder
- Psycho-Man Fear
- Thunderbolts Techno
"Yellow" cards like
- Bullseye Precision Shot
- Black Panther Jungle Savvy
- Kazar Jungle Savvy
- ROM/Turbo Double Shot - yellow on DOUBLE SHOT
Image starter deck "Moire-less"
- Grifter Bull's-Eye Shot - card has some dots, other is smooth gradient background
- Zealot Warrior Soul - card has some dots, other is smooth gradient background
- Correctly cut Spawn Finite Power
I was also able to pick up a card NOT listed. Marrow's Bone Snap. There is some yellowing, I'll post a picture of both versions.
(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/bonesnap_1.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/bonesnap_1.png)(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/bonesnap_2.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/bonesnap_2.png)
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(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/bullseyeshot_1.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/bullseyeshot_1.png)(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/bullseyeshot_2.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/bullseyeshot_2.png)
(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/fear_1.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/fear_1.png)(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/fear_2.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/fear_2.png)
(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/junglesavvy1_1.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/junglesavvy1_1.png)(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/junglesavvy1_2.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/junglesavvy1_2.png)(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/better_black_panther.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/better_black_panther.png)
Very hard to notice, it's a bit of yellowing on his arm, 3rd picture shows it much much better.
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(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/powerscheme_1.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/powerscheme_1.png)(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/powerscheme_2.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/powerscheme_2.png)
(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/precisionshot_1.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/precisionshot_1.png)(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/precisionshot_2.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/precisionshot_2.png)
(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/romturbo_1.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/romturbo_1.png)(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/romturbo_2.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/romturbo_2.png)
(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/superpatriot_1.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/superpatriot_1.png)(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/superpatriot_2.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/superpatriot_2.png)
(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/warriorsoul_1.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/warriorsoul_1.png)(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/warriorsoul_2.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/warriorsoul_2.png)
(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/yellowjacket_1.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/yellowjacket_1.png)(http://www.overpower.ca/thumb.php?file=uploads/oddities/yellowjacket_2.png&size=500) (http://www.overpower.ca/uploads/oddities/yellowjacket_2.png)
Quote from: Nate Grey on April 14, 2011, 02:50:35 AM
I recently noticed a card oddity in one of my Silver Surfer specials. On his Energy Projection special, both the AG and Silver Surfer name are blurry, but on closer inspection it appears they are spelled out in double fonts that don't overlap giving them a 3-D type blurry effect. :o The Silver Surfer picture on this card is also fuzzy. Anyone else have something similar?
I work as a screen printer so the double image is cause because they have to lay down colors twice to make them stand out so the other colors dont go through. sometimes a screen or the papers not properly lined up before printing. (not sure excatly how they printed their cards so I can't tell ya for sure which one). The silver cards from powersurge I believe are probally just areas not hit enough times with the ink which could be from them printing the colors outta order (laying down the white after the black ink would allow the black to show through turning it grey). Since working in a print shop and getting back into these cards I tend to find at least one flawed card outta ten but they are usally not big errors that are to odvious.
For the image oddities - the moire-less background is actually deliberate. It's how you can tell the starter version from the booster version. They differentiated the two - the same applies for the Missions. If you notice, any Shattered Image mission card you pull from a booster pack has a deeper purple background, where the starter version is noticeably paler.
Obviously the booster versions are more rare.
-BBH
As a collector, I didn't bother gathering the "ink splotchy" cards, as they were simply machine malfunction or improper printing. I DID however gather real printing variables.
Azreal with and without the Trademark line, The Infestation Incident with the same issue.
Longshot's Roll with the Punches, in which the first line either ends with the number 1 or the word "any."
Sorceress Slam from Scarlet Witch, I have both icons.
The miss-coded Tessa for the Hellfire Club, 2 copies of Lillandra, though without my collection in front of me, I forget what was different about those.
There was also something wrong with M.O.D.O.K. One from the starter had something different from the one in the booster. I could be thinking of the lvl 4 Intellect Powercard with M.O.D.O.K. pictured on it just as easily.
Quote from: Demacus on July 30, 2011, 12:06:32 PM
As a collector, I didn't bother gathering the "ink splotchy" cards, as they were simply machine malfunction or improper printing. I DID however gather real printing variables.
Azreal with and without the Trademark line, The Infestation Incident with the same issue.
Longshot's Roll with the Punches, in which the first line either ends with the number 1 or the word "any."
Sorceress Slam from Scarlet Witch, I have both icons.
The miss-coded Tessa for the Hellfire Club, 2 copies of Lillandra, though without my collection in front of me, I forget what was different about those.
There was also something wrong with M.O.D.O.K. One from the starter had something different from the one in the booster. I could be thinking of the lvl 4 Intellect Powercard with M.O.D.O.K. pictured on it just as easily.
The text on the Lillandra variant says, "Sh'iar" instead of the correct, "Shi'ar"
THAT was it! Thank you. :D Any idea what I was reffering to with the M.O.D.O.K. refference? lol
Quote from: Demacus on July 31, 2011, 09:28:43 AM
THAT was it! Thank you. :D Any idea what I was reffering to with the M.O.D.O.K. refference? lol
sorry, no. I only really knew about the Shi'ar card because I have them both. I don't, however, have Hydra and I only have 2 M.O.D.O.K. Power cards and they're (seemingly) identical :-\
I'll have to go hunting... I remember that when I found out there was a difference I made it a mission to buy starters until I pulled that particular card... I know I eventually did, but I forget what was special about it.
Might have been one of those cards that was accidentally exclusive to the starters.
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the MODOK. As far as I knew, there were only six misprints: Longshot, Scarlet Witch, Azrael, Sebastian Shaw, Tess and Lilandra.
I'd be interested to hear about any MODOK differences.
There might be some differences between the starters and the boosters, but really only minor differences. For example, the Zealot card I posted above, starters had the dotted pattern and the boosters had the smooth gradient (or vice versa, I can't remember). Same with the Shattered Image missions, the starters had a different hue compared to the boosters (on the back of the card).
The 6 completely different cards were mentioned by Kal-el, actual typos or text that was left off completely. The rest were just errors in printing. The ones I posted above were found on many cards. There are also some that were in extremely limited quantities and aren't really considered errors because it could just be one or two cards (and not 40%+ of the entire print).
I think the M.O.D.O.K. thing was just that in Monumental there was 1 card that could NOT be obtained from Booster packs. You had to buy starters to get it. It could have been the special for HYDRA, or one of the reprinted Power Cards. I seem to remember it having something to do with M.O.D.O.K, but it could have simply been misinformation from a friend at the time. I just remember buying starter after starter until I acquired said card, whatever it was. I apologize for any confusion I may have caused.
Apology not required.
Looking at my cards thoroughly, I found another Psycho-Man Fear that had a pink spot but it's in a different place. It's just above the TM in Psycho-Man instead of below the P.
I still can't find the last few oddity cards though.
I've noticed that the Backlash's Psi-Whips card (code LQ) that I scanned in has a distinctive black blob at the top right corner of the card where the comma is after the first line.
bamf! looked through our collection and noticed that 3/4 of our set of Psi-Whips have it and one doesn't.
Should I classify this as a printing error for the database? What would help me is if you have this card, tell me how many have the blob and how many don't so I can make a decision.
Quote from: Jack on January 18, 2012, 09:30:03 PM
I've noticed that the Backlash's Psi-Whips card (code LQ) that I scanned in has a distinctive black blob at the top right corner of the card where the comma is after the first line.
bamf! looked through our collection and noticed that 3/4 of our set of Psi-Whips have it and one doesn't.
Should I classify this as a printing error for the database? What would help me is if you have this card, tell me how many have the blob and how many don't so I can make a decision.
My Psi-Whips (I have 1) has the blob at the top right corner as well in the same place as yours.
any idea on the spawn finite power? i see that the one I own has off borders. and this card is only in the promos zip on the main website not the image zip. so are there 2 versions?
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some trading website, main card displayed on op.ca's char look up, an alternate url i found by removig the "b".
The one without the b is the proper cut one. The way to tell would be to compare the border to the rest of the cards from Image. I might have goofed on which card is displayed.
How was the fixed card released?
The miscue was a tournament release, right?
Miscut was at a Wizard World. Proper was distributed to card shops as local tournament prizes.
Thanks
I picked up a few boxes of loose OP cards a few weeks ago and stuck in with all the commons were a few miscut cards. You can see how they connect in the photo. Does anyone know how rare these are? I've purchased a lot of OP cards over the years, but I've never come across these before.
They are quite rare seeing how they passed QA without being noticed. I can't classify these as oddities because there are probably only 1 of each of these in existence.
And worth a fortune!!!!!!! 8)
Worth...less. It depends on the collector, probably worth a few times more than the card itself. As a "complete" set of miscuts, I'd probably give it a much higher value but don't expect the same pricing as a second tier VR (think Power Leech/Bastion).
I've heard people offer 1.5x the value for miscut Magic cards... sometimes 2x, but really, they have to love miscut cards to give that kind of value I think... I know a guy once worked at a card printing factory here locally, and he got some Magic sheets, uncut/full page prints. Those have fetched some good value... not sure it was legal though.
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QuoteI think the M.O.D.O.K. thing was just that in Monumental there was 1 card that could NOT be obtained from Booster packs. You had to buy starters to get it. It could have been the special for HYDRA, or one of the reprinted Power Cards. I seem to remember it having something to do with M.O.D.O.K, but it could have simply been misinformation from a friend at the time. I just remember buying starter after starter until I acquired said card, whatever it was. I apologize for any confusion I may have caused.
could it have been the arnim zola doubleshot? he looks like modok...
There are hundreds of these out there. I don't recall if it was a box I opened or not, but I remember seeing an entire box of Original miscut. I have seen this with IQ as well, but only those 2 sets.
I've also seen cards where the entire inking of the picture and the words were distorted. I believe, based on what I know of the printing process, that the sheet got moved slightly on the printer as the ink layers were being added to the sheet.
These are rare, but I personally wouldn't think that it adds any value. Not in Overpower anyway. I know there were those misprinted cards in MTG where some other CCG Game back got put on the Magic Cards. My cousin showed me one that he has.
I don't classify cards as oddities unless there are two different versions of the card with the differences. All Banshee IQ heroes have those spelling mistakes.
Yeah, I just thought it was funny