Hi guys,
Just wondering if anyone was willing to help with the website. A lot of stuff needed to be done doesn't involve any coding at all.
Scanning is a big one and I don't expect anyone to really provide help with it (if you do, I'm very specific with the types of scans I get -- must have all 4 rounded corners so that none of the card is missing, you might have noticed a lot of the current card scans are missing the top-left corner of the card, scanners leave off a margin since they don't expect you to need it.)
Mission/Event texts is needed for completeness, I only have the text relevant to game play, but I want to create a complete database that includes the name of the Missions as well as the small blurb (that probably nobody has ever read). The events also have texts too.
Meta rules for Marvels probably from a group of people. Right now, there are no meta rules affiliated with the new Marvels special codes.
There are probably more, like history of the game, etc., but I might ask JohnL for permission to use his write ups on the site.
I could help out with Mission and event texts.
That would be great, any format would be fine, as long as they are separated by missions.
I'm willing to help with scanning. I'm sort of a lazy bastard, though, so know that up front. ;D
PM or reply with more info on what you need done.
Scans should have all 4 corners, preferably non-damaged cards. The backs of the cards are not needed if they are the common card backs (Marvel, DC, Image) but Missions will need the backs done. 600DPI preferred, TIFF/PSD format.
Have you completed any scanning yet? Where would you like me to start? Characters, power cards...?
I've started scanning a few but I'm doing to re-do them with my new scanner (link (http://www.amazon.com/Penpower-WorldCardColor-Color-Business-Scanner/dp/B0001R05T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1307911656&sr=1-1)). Any scanner will do as long as the sides aren't cut off.
I guess you can start with whatever sets you have. I guess what you can do is pick a box from http://overpower.ca/pages/opcc.php and scan it and zip it (I'll open up an account to my server for scans). I don't mind if the cards aren't cropped out -- probably better since I want cards to take a 1:1.4142 ratio, I just need the images digitized.
Post Merge: July 11, 2011, 09:03:37 AM
It looks like the scanning project will be quite big in terms of actual storage space. My idea for the database of cards would be:
Rough total number of cards is: 2800 (backs of missions, backs of cards with different copyright years, promotional card backs (Warlock, etc.)
"Master" copy of the scan: Scanned in and edited and saved as a 2000x1414 (or 1414x2000) 600DPI 24-bit PNG will take roughly 6-10MB per picture. Rough total size: 23GB - stored locally on my computer and backed up with bamf!. Will also find the time to upload them to a backup server.
"Web" copy of the scan: Saved copy of the "Master" copy at 420x297 (or 297x400) at 72DPI 24-bit PNG and ran through OptiPNG will be roughly 300KB per picture. Rough total size: 1GB - stored locally on my computer as well as on the overpower.ca server and whoever else wants a copy of it.
I might change my mind about the sizes to make it possible for people to print off the cards as proxies. Thinking 150DPI, so the web copies will be 371x525 roughly.
I'd love to be able to print directly from overpower.ca for proxi cards. It would be a huge community resource to give a step by step tutorial for proxi cards as well...
Quote from: Jack on June 11, 2011, 03:03:33 PM
There are probably more, like history of the game, etc., but I might ask JohnL for permission to use his write ups on the site.
No problem, use anything you like and feel free to edit it for clarity. And you might want to also check Onslaught's post on the evolution of the metagame. That is good stuff.
John
Quote from: JohnL on June 13, 2011, 02:29:36 AM
Quote from: Jack on June 11, 2011, 03:03:33 PM
There are probably more, like history of the game, etc., but I might ask JohnL for permission to use his write ups on the site.
No problem, use anything you like and feel free to edit it for clarity. And you might want to also check Onslaught's post on the evolution of the metagame. That is good stuff.
John
Sounds great, thanks John! I'll try and find time to put them on the site!
Quote from: Jack on June 12, 2011, 04:51:08 PM
I've started scanning a few but I'm doing to re-do them with my new scanner (link (http://www.amazon.com/Penpower-WorldCardColor-Color-Business-Scanner/dp/B0001R05T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1307911656&sr=1-1)). Any scanner will do as long as the sides aren't cut off.
I guess you can start with whatever sets you have. I guess what you can do is pick a box from http://overpower.ca/pages/opcc.php and scan it and zip it (I'll open up an account to my server for scans). I don't mind if the cards aren't cropped out -- probably better since I want cards to take a 1:1.4142 ratio, I just need the images digitized.
I don't keep my collection organized by set, I do it by character. Is that a big deal? Cause if you're doing the cropping by your standards, do you mind organizing by set as well?
Quote from: Kyle on June 13, 2011, 01:39:26 PM
Quote from: Jack on June 12, 2011, 04:51:08 PM
I've started scanning a few but I'm doing to re-do them with my new scanner (link (http://www.amazon.com/Penpower-WorldCardColor-Color-Business-Scanner/dp/B0001R05T8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1307911656&sr=1-1)). Any scanner will do as long as the sides aren't cut off.
I guess you can start with whatever sets you have. I guess what you can do is pick a box from http://overpower.ca/pages/opcc.php and scan it and zip it (I'll open up an account to my server for scans). I don't mind if the cards aren't cropped out -- probably better since I want cards to take a 1:1.4142 ratio, I just need the images digitized.
I don't keep my collection organized by set, I do it by character. Is that a big deal? Cause if you're doing the cropping by your standards, do you mind organizing by set as well?
I guess it doesn't matter too much, just easier to organize which scans I have and which I don't.
And update on the matter. I've acquired a new scanner and I found a way to scan things much easier. I'm ditching the stupid business card scanner, it was too finicky to use and it didn't seem to be quite bright either. I'm selling it on eBay.
I can scan about 6 to 8 cards at a time (6 is optimal), load them into Photoshop, crop and align photos and run two actions I defined to help clean up any weird edges and fill in the rounded corners. Approximate time to scan 6 cards is 4 minutes if working continuously.
I'm also scanning into Adobe RGB 1998, I've noticed that I was using a horrible Frankenstein of colour profiles when scanning so I'm sticking to one and Adobe RGB 1998 sounds pretty damn good.
I've also decided to make things rounded at 1500x2100 (2.5 in by 3.5 in @ 600DPI) to make life much easier. This way the cards will be ~9.5MB each with a grand total of about 30GB. The web copy of the card will probably end up at 280 px by 392px (~225KB) or 300px by 420px (~256KB) when exported as a 24-bit PNG. I'm pretty bad at keeping promises but I'll try to get a lot of the cards scanned by the end of the year and then I'll slowly find time to crop them out and catalogue them.
Here's a sample of Crystal:
(http://overpower.ca/uploads/crystal.png)
Another fine bit of work there Jack.
I wish my scanner was working so I could help you out with scanning the cards.
Scanning shouldn't be a problem, at least I hope not. The task seems straightforward for the most part.
I have noticed that there are some problems with the current database in terms of spelling and such, or Hero substituted for Character in Any Hero specials, etc.
If anyone wants to do a huge favour for me, load up OpDeck and go through all the specials, one by one, and make note of where typos occurred, that would be very super. By typos, I mean any actual typos, different capitalization, missing periods. If the text doesn't match 100% from the card to the box, note it down. The card code should be left alone as I think I've solved that problem already.
Same goes for Inherents on Character cards, or pretty much anything with an English sentence.
i'll try to help you out with that, jack
i'll start from 'a' down, if anyone else wants to help, the can go from 'z' up
Thanks breadmaster!
For anyone else who wants to help, I'll give out a few Marvel vs Wildstorm promos depending on how much you help out. Any cards are valid until I'm out, I've amassed a few spare sets of it now.
wow, cool!
if you have it, the only card i need from that set is wynnona earp
Will do. If you're coming on the 22nd, I'll make sure to bring one with me, any others?
I'd be happy to help for a Crystal hero card :)
Just running through the list of card text? That's totally do-able. Is there a convenient way to access the text without launching the OPO Program? I imagine it's in one of the files with the OPO package I downloaded, right?
The MDB will contain everything you need, you can look into it with Access or a similar program. I can export the raw database into an Excel spreadsheet if you guys want.
@ncannelora: Yep, Crystal is up for grabs too. I don't mind if you guys double up on the work, the more eyes the better.
Quote from: Jack on October 06, 2011, 02:31:56 PM
The MDB will contain everything you need, you can look into it with Access or a similar program. I can export the raw database into an Excel spreadsheet if you guys want.
@ncannelora: Yep, Crystal is up for grabs too. I don't mind if you guys double up on the work, the more eyes the better.
sa-weet. I'll get started tonight. Do you have any kind of deadline in mind?
Nope, it's an on-going process.
I'll have the spreadsheets up in a bit.
EDIT:
http://overpower.ca/uploads/database.zip
The best way to go at it would be to create a new spreadsheet or document and just give me the errors or just type out the proper text. There's no need to tell me if things are correct.
ok, jack. i'm just confirming that this is indeed what you're looking for, so i don't waste my time if it's not
so far i'm up to apocalypse
i've found 2 discrepancies, both on 'marvels' cards
alpha flight: madison jeffries. on the word 'toward', it's pluralized on the special (towards) yet singular in the text box
angel: NJ special-attack not affected... text- attack IS not affected...
Yep, that's good.
EDIT:
More help is needed:
I need someone to help take this text file (http://overpower.ca/uploads/tgedit.txt) and use this tournament guide (http://overpower.ca/uploads/tournament_guide_final.pdf) and help correct the text that I extracted from it. Now, there's a lot of the rulings provided in the guide that are incorrect/obsolete but I want at least a good starting point.
The text file has some of the text already extracted but the recognition software isn't perfect. If anyone wants to help out, the Marvel/Wildstorm characters are always up for grabs. I also have some other promo cards if you don't like Marvel/Wildstorm heroes (subject to availability :P)
Help is still needed, I haven't heard back from anyone yet, except breadmaster.
I've finally got the cards scanned in and I'm working on them now. I'm about 60% done with a full push to complete it by this weekend. There will be ~2850 cards (fronts and backs -- if they are unique). I'll probably have 40 more cards in addition to that total to include the Jumbo promos.
Files: I don't like to mix around with partial pixels since the images were cropped to a 5:7 ratio. I think 300x420 is a good round number to keep things, the cards are very readable at that size. The next lower value of 250x350 is a bit small for a card with a lot of text (DoW is what I'm using to test things). File sizes are ~200KB-300KB each, so a full set would be roughly 750MB. Of course, this is before optimizations so it will likely be less. We'll see when I'm done.
Also a note, the cards aren't perfect. I tried my best to crop them out nicely and fix scanning errors when I see them. I'm sure there's at least 200 cards that look wrong in the set of 2890. Let me know when they're released and I'll put up fresh versions of them.
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There are 2913 files in the whole set, and will probably use ~25GB in PSD format. Waiting until the end of the month because I'm missing scans of the Assault on Onslaught missions (they looked too dark when scanned naked, gotta sleeve it up to deflect some light). I also mis-scanned the Shi'ar's Lillandra and Hellfire Club's Sebastian Shaw cards as well as the moire'd Grifter and Zealot.
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Here's a preview of things to come, I haven't had time to work on the new interface for the character search.
(http://overpower.ca/thumb.php?size=500&file=uploads/old_op.png) (http://overpower.ca/uploads/old_op.png)(http://overpower.ca/thumb.php?size=500&file=uploads/new_op.png) (http://overpower.ca/uploads/new_op.png)
(http://overpower.ca/thumb.php?size=500&file=uploads/old_op2.png) (http://overpower.ca/uploads/old_op2.png)(http://overpower.ca/thumb.php?size=500&file=uploads/new_op2.png) (http://overpower.ca/uploads/new_op2.png)
I haven't been on here in a while and just noticed this. Is everything all done or do you still need some help with anything.
Not really, I think I'm okay with the site material. If you notice any mistakes, let me know.
I'll put up the new stuff on Feb 1.
Final statistics for the new card images:
2948 cards.
PNG at 24-bit, 300x420 pixel resolution (120 DPI): ~700MB for the set (average of 237KB/card)
PNG at 24-bit, 500x700 pixel resolution (200 DPI): ~2.0GB for the set (average of 695KB/card)
"Raw" PSD, 1500x2100 pixel resolution (600 DPI): 28GB for the set (average of 9.25MB/card)
I'm offering the first two sets as downloads, the last set will not be distributed.
EDIT:
Downloads will be linked on the website shortly, for those that want to get at them:
The set on the site:
http://files.overpower.ca/cards/300x420.rar (724MB)
The set that you can print from: (200MB each)
http://files.overpower.ca/cards/500x700.r00
http://files.overpower.ca/cards/500x700.r01
http://files.overpower.ca/cards/500x700.r02
http://files.overpower.ca/cards/500x700.r03
http://files.overpower.ca/cards/500x700.r04
http://files.overpower.ca/cards/500x700.r05
http://files.overpower.ca/cards/500x700.r06
http://files.overpower.ca/cards/500x700.r07
http://files.overpower.ca/cards/500x700.r08
http://files.overpower.ca/cards/500x700.r09
http://files.overpower.ca/cards/500x700.rar
You're free to do whatever you want with them except make profit from printed copies. I don't claim them as my own and you shouldn't either.