I had 2 that I was constantly hoping for as a comic reader of the early to mid 90's.... The first being Spider-Man OP and the other being a 2099 themed set.
There were so many good Spidey characters that went unused. Kraven, Lizard, Chameleon, Electro, Allistair Smythe, Sandman... and you could have filled it out with some NYC based allies like Moon Knight, the Prowler and Luke Cage.
after Doc Doom 2099 came out in classic I was drooling over the chance to see a Spidey 2099 or Ravage or the X-Men.... maybe just a sub set like Mission Control.
Too bad. One can always dream I guess.
I was always hoping for a Cosmic Overpower set, something that would introduce some of the more epic, super-powered characters, like Thanos, Mephisto, Death, Eternity, The Living Tribunal, ect, ect...
Also would have loved to see an Amalgam Comics set. Could use the Marvel Vs Dc as the mission set. Events could include Cosmic Sibling Rivaly and Cardboard Box. Characters could count as clones of their 'pure' counterparts. Dark Claw, Wolverine and Batman could not be on the same team, but give Dark Claw access to both pools of specials. Super Solider mixes Captain America and Superman. The Hyena... Joker/Sabretooth. Good stuff.
I made custom Spider-Man: 2099 and custom 6-Arm Spider-Man cards here:
http://www.beenhereandthere.com/SMF/index.php?topic=534.0
The Spiderman set sounds good.
Quote from: Oscorp on November 19, 2011, 01:19:31 AM
I had 2 that I was constantly hoping for as a comic reader of the early to mid 90's.... The first being Spider-Man OP and the other being a 2099 themed set.
There were so many good Spidey characters that went unused. Kraven, Lizard, Chameleon, Electro, Allistair Smythe, Sandman... and you could have filled it out with some NYC based allies like Moon Knight, the Prowler and Luke Cage.
after Doc Doom 2099 came out in classic I was drooling over the chance to see a Spidey 2099 or Ravage or the X-Men.... maybe just a sub set like Mission Control.
Yeah, totally agree with you about Spider-Man OP. And I always missed a Avengers set, with so many classic villains, like Kang, Loki, Mr. Hyde, M.O.D.O.K. and Ultron.
Since I am a homemade addict, I am working in both sets. Hope to finish my Avengers set in a couple months.
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I have put together a list of cards that I think would fit in with what Marvel wanted to acheve with The Marvels set. I'm no good at customs so I might have a ask around to see if any one wants to produce a full set of cards.
I'm also looking into compiling a complete set for Absolute Evil and a Spider-Man set too.
Here's our Spider-Man set so far:
http://justabgkid.com/emporium/spidermangallerymain.html (http://justabgkid.com/emporium/spidermangallerymain.html)
And our Avengers set to date:
http://justabgkid.com/emporium/avengersmain.html (http://justabgkid.com/emporium/avengersmain.html)
Enjoy!
I've been looking at your excellent site for inspiration on selecting the right specials.
holy crap :)
any chance of u guys making a colossus:juggernaut?
variant
Thanks, guys! The compliments are GREATLY appreciated.
Image 2. Image is quite possibly my favorite expansion and I would have loved a sequel. Aside from the obvious exemption of Spartan, I think Image did a fantastic job of covering the essentials. There are still quite a number of characters I would have liked to eventually see, though.
Also, a Marvel set with Shatterstar. People were clamoring for him for years. The most disappointing thing about Marvels was his absence. Yes, I'm including the set not being released and the game getting discontinued in that complaint. >:(
A full blown AoA expansion would have been pretty cool despite the AoA stuff we already got. I suppose they could have reprinted some of the harder to find stuff in it.
Quote from: Bullio on December 06, 2011, 03:46:43 AM
Image 2. Image is quite possibly my favorite expansion and I would have loved a sequel. Aside from the obvious exemption of Spartan, I think Image did a fantastic job of covering the essentials. There are still quite a number of characters I would have liked to eventually see, though.
Also, a Marvel set with Shatterstar. People were clamoring for him for years. The most disappointing thing about Marvels was his absence. Yes, I'm including the set not being released and the game getting discontinued in that complaint. >:(
A full blown AoA expansion would have been pretty cool despite the AoA stuff we already got. I suppose they could have reprinted some of the harder to find stuff in it.
I would have loved to see an AoA expansion set! That's by far and away my favorite X-Men story. I think it would've been great to (officially) get a Blink character/specials. Also, I agree, it would have been cool to have some other cough*xman*cough cards reprinted in the set. I would also have loved a variant hero card for all the X-men in AoA... dang, good point here Bullio...
Quote from: ncannelora on December 06, 2011, 12:46:02 PM
I would also have loved a variant hero card for all the X-men in AoA...
X-Men AOA is really a great story! But Legion's quest into the past didn't change Marvel's main universe, just created an alternate reality. That being said, there shouldn't exist any AoA variants.
Why X-Man and Cable or Dark Beast and Beast are different characters and can be used in the same team if Colossus:AoA and Colossus are considered variants that can't be used together? Doesn't it seem an incoherence?
My opinion is that AoA is so rich in characters and backgrounds that it could make an entire expansion set. But not as variants, they should be alternate characters, just like Dark Beast or X-Man. There is just too many characters to explore, like Sabretooth, Nightcrawler, Forge and teams like the Human High Concil, the X-Calibre, Generation Next, etc.
Quote from: Bios on December 22, 2011, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: ncannelora on December 06, 2011, 12:46:02 PM
I would also have loved a variant hero card for all the X-men in AoA...
X-Men AOA is really a great story! But Legion's quest into the past didn't change Marvel's main universe, just created an alternate reality. That being said, there shouldn't exist any AoA variants.
Why X-Man and Cable or Dark Beast and Beast are different characters and can be used in the same team if Colossus:AoA and Colossus are considered variants that can't be used together? Doesn't it seem an incoherence?
My opinion is that AoA is so rich in characters and backgrounds that it could make an entire expansion set. But not as variants, they should be alternate characters, just like Dark Beast or X-Man. There is just too many characters to explore, like Sabretooth, Nightcrawler, Forge and teams like the Human High Concil, the X-Calibre, Generation Next, etc.
There's actually a very good reason why those are separate characters and not variants. Dark Beast and X-Man escaped the AoA, the others did not. So, there have been comics where X-man & Cable are together (fighting eachother or others) and there have been comics where Dark Beast & Beast are together (again, fighting eachother or others). There have not been any comics with Colossus & Colossus:AoA together.
Also, X-World is an alternate reality that, manifestly, warranted it's own variant cards. So it seems to me, that a set of AoA variants would be like the X-World variants, in its justification and execution.
Quote from: ncannelora on December 25, 2011, 12:25:04 PM
There's actually a very good reason why those are separate characters and not variants. Dark Beast and X-Man escaped the AoA, the others did not. So, there have been comics where X-man & Cable are together (fighting eachother or others) and there have been comics where Dark Beast & Beast are together (again, fighting eachother or others). There have not been any comics with Colossus & Colossus:AoA together.
Also, X-World is an alternate reality that, manifestly, warranted it's own variant cards. So it seems to me, that a set of AoA variants would be like the X-World variants, in its justification and execution.
The fact that only Dark Beast and X-Man escaped from AoA is circumstantial. There is nothing to prevent any other AoA character to escape in future stories or even retcons.
Those who are following the Dark Angel saga should know that Wolverine and Wolverine AoA finally met each other.
(http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/90912115521.13.VARIANT.gif) "You weren't born of this world, but I will bury you here!" - Wolverine AoA to Wolverine in Uncanny X-Force #13
I can understand the variant thing for hero cards like Storm 3-stat, Storm 4-stat, and Storm Neutralized, as they are all the same character in the same universe. When it comes to Characters who are from diffrent unverses' (Weapon X, The Brute) or actual clones of other charcters (Scarlet Spider), I think they should all be treated as diffrent characters.
Seems to have become a variant/clone thread......thoughts to ponder
I don't have a strong opinion on the AOA part, but it was my impression that the X-World variants were put out to promo the comic books (merchandizing), but then again, i could be wrong.
My biggest beef was with Human Torch and Human Torch: Invaders. Wasn't the Invaders version a robot? Different people should not be considered the same (like Cap A & Superpatriot).
Would that mean that Nova (from New Warriors) couldn't be on the same team as Nova (Frankie Raye: Herald of Galactus)? I'm sure there are plenty of other examples.
@ Bios, possible retconns and re-writes go on forever. The point is, at the time the set was released, only X-Man and D.Beast had escaped AoA. My personal opinion is that they started getting a little crazy with AoA2 and the Exiles, and all the "leaks" out of AoA. I love the original story arc and wish they would've left it as-is.
Having said that, if/when alternate universe characters finally are able to meet their "standard" counterpart, then I'd say there are grounds to consider a house rule to treat them as clones.
@Justa - I always agreed on the Human Torch (Invaders) thing because yes, he was a robot. And he killed Hitler. 8)
I actually just created the last card for a Spiderman expansion I spent months on yesterday. (that last card being Jack O'Lantern who functions as a split variant of Hobgoblin-Mysterio).
Some of the more fun things to come out of that set included an Outlaws hero card, Aspects for the Daily Bugle and a Web of Life Hombase (based on the Morlun-Grim Hunt-Fever mystic aspects to the Spiderman mythos).
Quote from: The Dude on December 30, 2011, 08:28:47 PM
I actually just created the last card for a Spiderman expansion I spent months on yesterday. (that last card being Jack O'Lantern who functions as a split variant of Hobgoblin-Mysterio).
Some of the more fun things to come out of that set included an Outlaws hero card, Aspects for the Daily Bugle and a Web of Life Hombase (based on the Morlun-Grim Hunt-Fever mystic aspects to the Spiderman mythos).
My playing group created a Home-made ASPECT for DAILY BUGLE as well. We made it mirror the ASTEROID "M" and MUIR ISLAND ASPECT cards, only for Strength (instead of Fighting and Intellect, respectively). At first, we were concerned it'd be too much, since that base has a 7s, 7s, 6s, 6s - but all in all, it really just made it a worthwhile base.
Gotta include the love for X-Men: AOA! My favorite X-Men story of all! So glad we do have X-Man in Overpower and I'm also in agreement that Blink would have been great to have as well.
I actually started collecting comics when the Marvel 2099 line first came out so I would have liked to see more 2099 OP cards.
I think a Spider-Man set would have been outstanding. I know Marvel tends to live and die with Spidey when it comes to a lot of things, but I think a lot of characters, like Sleepwalker or even lesser known guys like SuperPro could have been fun additions to OP.
I would have also like to have seen a crossover set. Not necessarily in the same view as the Marvel/Wildstorm but maybe teamworks, power cards, etc that had characters from different sets together - would have brought the game together IMO.
I would have loved more smaller, themed sets. An Avengers set. A Spider-man set. An X-men set that actually contains decent X-men (really, Taskmaster and Spider-girl but no Angel, Blink, Pyro, Toad, Avalanche, Mastermold, Nimrod...).
If they had kept them small, around MC size, I think those could have been lots of fun.
I can come up with plenty for DC too. JSA, Titans, The Legion, Planetary, Authority, Stormwatch...
Quote from: Kal-el on April 16, 2012, 01:12:15 PM
I would have loved more smaller, themed sets. An Avengers set. A Spider-man set. An X-men set that actually contains decent X-men (really, Taskmaster and Spider-girl but no Angel, Blink, Pyro, Toad, Avalanche, Mastermold, Nimrod...).
If they had kept them small, around MC size, I think those could have been lots of fun.
I can come up with plenty for DC too. JSA, Titans, The Legion, Planetary, Authority, Stormwatch...
Thats a pretty sweet concept. Especially staying around the MC size. That would make things easier to collect and definitely a lot more accessible - of course the money isnt in the small sets though :P
AvsX set 8)