Re-Worded cards

[BasiliskFang]

Re-wording and revisualizing a few cards I'll have printed out for myself.

Any other rareish cards that need rewording? Not just on the codes or making them OPDs but on how to actually use them.











a little preview of my "Overpower at the Movies" cards. Of course, these are inserts aside from the movie cards.

[thetrooper27]

Try rewording Substitute Death for Morph.  That might be fun!

[BasiliskFang]

My try:
A. Play before a teammate is KO'd, immediately exchange Morph with any 1 teammate in the dead heroes pile. Discard all placed cards. All of Morph's hits remain in place.

B. Play before a teammate is KO'd, immediately before a teammate is sent to the dead heroes pile- switch Morph's and that teammate's hits. Discard all placed cards.

C. Play before a teammate is KO'd, immediately before a teammate is sent to the dead heroes pile- switch Morph and that teammate. Discard all placed cards. All of Morph's hits remain in place.

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The way i understand it is: you can play this as early as you want. but after this is played morph must switch with the first hero ko'd. no placed cards are kept and any/all hits morph had would still be on the originally ko'd hero.

I don't understand the meta rules pertaining to this card on the wiki: Meta #32 If conditions are such that the card cannot be played this battle unless the opponent performs some action, then the card must be placed or discarded as unusable. If the player holds cards that can create the situation by which the card would be playable, then it can be kept in hand.
Meta #153 Specials which can make other cards (Specials, Power cards, etc.) usable allow you to keep those unusable cards in hand during the discard phase. The Special to make them usable must be available (e.g., Placed, in Hand, available through a specific draw - not through a random draw).

[thetrooper27]

Think a little more intuitively about how the creators intended for the card to be played.  What do you believe the card itself is supposed to represent?

My first experience with Morph was in the 90's cartoon, when he took one for Wolverine.  So basically the way I read the card was "If a character is ko'd this battle, Morph can take his place."  That's without getting into technical wording and all that.  But basically, that's the way I think the card is supposed to be played.

[BasiliskFang]

Well you have a go.

[thetrooper27]

Okay... here we go.  I'm thinking that the way the HP is being played, it takes two actions to res your teammate.  The first one is playing the card.  The second is discarding the HP to revive the character, killing Morph.  So here's the best I can do:

Substitute Death: Play this card face up on the table.  For remainder of game, you may discard Substitute Death to exchange a ko'd teammate and Morph.  Discard all placed cards.  This card may not be played until at least one teammate has been ko'd. (OPD)

[BasiliskFang]

This card may not be played until at least one teammate has been ko'd. (OPD)

are you saying this the right way?

[thetrooper27]

The way I'm understanding from everyone here is that "play during current battle, after one teammate has been ko'd" means that it's playable in any battle as long as a teammate has bitten the dust in the same current battle or a previous one.  Check out the "FD Specials" thread for the full discussion.

[BasiliskFang]

http://overpower.ca/wiki/HP

This Special does not need to be played during the battle that a character is KO'd

so it can be played 1st hand and is lasting until you choose to sacrifice morph and the cards placed to him.

[thetrooper27]

It doesn't have to be the same battle, but I'm sure it can't be played unless a teammate is ko'd, according to the wiki and the guys involved in the chat. 

Rules Questions: FD Specials... it's all in there, I think.  Maybe I missed something though, so check it out for me.

[Hotobu]

http://overpower.ca/wiki/HP

This Special does not need to be played during the battle that a character is KO'd

so it can be played 1st hand and is lasting until you choose to sacrifice morph and the cards placed to him.

This is false. The text reads:

Play in current battle, after one teammate is KO'd. Immediately exchange KO'd teammate and Morph. Discard all Placed cards. All hits remain.

Granted the comma in the first sentence is unnecessary, but it's still a sentence. It's one complete thought expressing two conditions. The first condition is that you play it in the current battle, and the second condition is after a teammate is KO'd. You're reading it wrong. I'll rewrite it to show how you're reading it.

Play in current battle. After one teammate is KO'd immediately exchange KO'd teammate and Morph. Discard all Placed cards. All hits remain.

This is completely different. The first sentence says when the special should be played, and it goes on to give conditions.

[gameplan.exe]

There is only one condition to play Substitute Death: a teammate must already be KO'd. It doesn't matter when it happened (same battle or previous battle), and it takes effect immediately. It's as simple as that.

[thetrooper27]

"Substitute Death: Play this card face up on the table.  For remainder of game, you may discard Substitute Death to exchange a ko'd teammate and Morph.  Discard all placed cards.  This card may not be played until at least one teammate has been ko'd. (OPD)"

So how did I do?   Does my wording cover it right?

[Hotobu]

"Substitute Death: Play this card face up on the table.  For remainder of game, you may discard Substitute Death to exchange a ko'd teammate and Morph.  Discard all placed cards.  This card may not be played until at least one teammate has been ko'd. (OPD)"

So how did I do?   Does my wording cover it right?

No not at all. The card is worded fine as is. I don't understand the confusion.

[gameplan.exe]

"Substitute Death: Play this card face up on the table.  For remainder of game, you may discard Substitute Death to exchange a ko'd teammate and Morph.  Discard all placed cards.  This card may not be played until at least one teammate has been ko'd. (OPD)"

So how did I do?   Does my wording cover it right?

Sorry, you missed another point - the immediacy of it. You cannot elect to "discard" Substitute Death. It has an immediate effect once it's played. Also, in your re-wording, it would take 2 turns, which is bad.