OverPower Championships 2014

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MHC

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No. Neither are you allowed to sort through your own dead pile or power pack.

If you are concerned about an illegal deck, you can request a judge to go through your opponent's deck to look for any offending card(s).

Of course, this doesn't apply if you play a special that allows for you to sort through either yours, opponent's cards. (Deathstrike, Web head etc.)

Do you mind clarifying this rule for me?  Does this mean that (1) I am never allowed to look through my own dead pile or power pack until I have played a particular special card (like Web head or Storm's Gathering winds); (2) I cannot look through my own dead pile or power pack unless I have one of those cards placed or in hand (meaning I could play one or am deciding if I want to play one); or (3) I cannot look through my own dead pile or power pack unless I have one of those cards in my deck (e.g., I may not have one in my hand, but could draw into one because I have a draw three in my hand, and I want to plan ahead)?

Also, what counts as legal note taking?  I have seen games where (1) players keep track of the codes from specials that have been played from their opponent's battle site (so to catch violators of the duplicate code rule); (2) players keep track of the venture total on paper (essentially just writing down the total sum); and (3) players keep track of how many cards their opponent has in their hand or placed ( to catch people who try to draw extra cards).  Would any of these be legal? 

BigBadHarve

Quote from: MHC on September 29, 2014, 12:01:36 PM
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No. Neither are you allowed to sort through your own dead pile or power pack.

If you are concerned about an illegal deck, you can request a judge to go through your opponent's deck to look for any offending card(s).

Of course, this doesn't apply if you play a special that allows for you to sort through either yours, opponent's cards. (Deathstrike, Web head etc.)

Do you mind clarifying this rule for me?  Does this mean that (1) I am never allowed to look through my own dead pile or power pack until I have played a particular special card (like Web head or Storm's Gathering winds); (2) I cannot look through my own dead pile or power pack unless I have one of those cards placed or in hand (meaning I could play one or am deciding if I want to play one); or (3) I cannot look through my own dead pile or power pack unless I have one of those cards in my deck (e.g., I may not have one in my hand, but could draw into one because I have a draw three in my hand, and I want to plan ahead)?


You are never allowed to view your own dead pile or power pack piles during the game. It's on you to remember what you've used.

You can only look through the piles when a card is played that allows it. You must actually play the card, it's not enough to just have it in your deck, or in hand or placed.

As for note taking, we've never really had this come up. No one I've seen takes notes. I'm not sure what the official tournament stance would have been back in the day, though I have a pretty good idea that it's not allowed.

Personally speaking, Chuu's request to just have a notepad to keep track of his opponent's venture doesn't bother me, seeing as he's not keeping track of anything that's not already above board. But taking notes about things that have happened in-game, and cards played would be an entirely different matter.

chuu

I don't even need to keep notes on the venture, I just want to use a labels on the table to show which pile is which, this is in case the piles get moved accidently, it'll make it easier to identify where each pile was...if anyone understands what i mean.


MHC

Thanks for the clarification, BBH.

BigBadHarve

Quote from: chuu on September 30, 2014, 10:22:33 AM
I don't even need to keep notes on the venture, I just want to use a labels on the table to show which pile is which, this is in case the piles get moved accidently, it'll make it easier to identify where each pile was...if anyone understands what i mean.

I see. I don't think that would be a problem.

Our table space is more often enough adequate to keep them distinct, but having a marker for more cramped scenarios isn't a bad idea.

drdeath25

I dont see how taking notes would ever be illegal. I mean, your only taking notes on things you have seen on the board. Whether you are noting which cards your opponent has played, so you can guess what he has left in his deck, or to try and have a decklist if you play him later in the tournament, your just writing down what you have seen. Some people cant remember stuff like that in their brain, and like the put it in writing. How would it ever be illegal to write something down so you dont forget it?

chuu

i think tournaments are like a casino...a casino would never let you write stuff down since it gives you an "unfair" advantage..

Tussin

as long as it isn't interfering with the game play and flow of the game im fine with it... but still everything involved in the game is skill, how you make your deck, how you play it, what cards you are weak to, your strength and weaknesses.

i am not against it if people would want to but... its like in a chess match you have to enhance your mental activity to make crucial moves and attempt to out think your opponent in quick time, its all part of the game. work on your memory, tactics, strategy, etc.

AO user

registration fee must be in canadian currency or is US$  ok?  and how much is it?

chuu

i'm pretty sure Marcel would have no problem taking american money...

Come to think of it, I'll be exhanging American to Canadian money at a rate of $1.05 - LOL

OP GOD

It's $25 cdn. I will take American at par. PayPal ahead or cash on the day.

Over $1000 in prizes.

As for note taking and venture placement. 

I am not opposed to chuu bringing in his own venture board and one for an opponent, however your opponent is not obligated to use it.  I will not have anything on the table other than dividers.

Note taking has not been an issue or relevant in the past.  Though I would not be against it, I will stick with status quo for the year and not allow it. We can bring this up during winter meetings.

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chuu

i'm ok with it being my opponents option to use my Venture Board, I'll just say that my Venture board will be SEXY...lol..

breadmaster

what do you mean by intimidation?

OP GOD

Intimidation - So you don't have to feel like the choice is in you.  People might not renege trying to not be the bad guy.  Or they feel intimidated by the person they are playing may get upset about the decision.  Though someone like you BREADMASTER may not be intimidated by anyone. Some people have inert fears of conflict and would or could be swayed into not reneging.  I am merely saying it is put to the judge to resolve once called over, not the player.

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