The Collector: Response to DoW...maybe?

[teesaw]

Thank you everyone for the great (and fast) feedback.

Issue #1 - accessible by any activator is a bit overpowered - Possible fixes:
(1) Make it OPD - it's a designation that I would sort of roll my eyes at, because if it's going in a battlesite, you couldn't have more than 1 - what it WOULD do is it would eliminate the battlesite's other OPD - I think this would be sort of game-breaking, especially since most people pointed out that this would be a Must Include in battlesite decks.

(2) Make it only acessible only to Beyonder - I really like this idea; I was kicking around whether  I felt that  of having this card only accessible using the Beyonder activator - I was actually toying with the idea of making this a Beyonder special card, but I'm not sure I would be okay with this being as part of a Beyonder-team Any Hero deck to kill other non-Beyonder any hero decks.

I'm not sure where I stand on these possible solutions, at the moment...

Issue #2 - 4 any hero attacks is a tough hurdle to get over - Possible fixes:
(1) Reduce the number of attacks necessary to melt the card - I'm on the fence about this.

(2) Change the mechanic from "attack" to some kind of mechanic that allows any any-hero card to be thrown at this thing, while still taking an entire turn to do it...Seems very complicated but might work.

(3) Change the mechanic all together - the ZY mechanic from Thing's stonewall might work better "Play during battle.  Opponent may not use Any Character Special cards unless Opponent also discards 2 card per action. Cards may be Placed or in Hand. This card may not be negated and remains in play for the remainder of the game, or until 2 special cards have been played this way." [the number of cards discarded, and the number of cards until removed from play can be tweaked...maybe 1/4 works?  Either way, you're discarding 4 cards, and in a way this is not as strong as DoW because your opponent can discard anything they want, and continue to play the cards that they want to play......Maybe make it 1 random discard for every any hero special, FROG with no cap of 4 cards?

[Tussin]

i would say no to the OPD part...when i go battlesites its usually for a specific OPD im using in my deck, two, if it was non opd, it would give opening for characters on a battlesite with little to no good special cards for access, even locations without an official character in game yet. it would solve lots of those issues.

it would be a great any battlesite card, it would be like having another possible card like A-Next in your deck. if you do make it an aspect card, give it special instructions that it can't be used in the homebase of team overpower


we don't want an any hero deck with ability to shut down any hero and battlesite decks, it should be one or the other. to balance the equation of meta cards

and if you went the non OPD route... you could lessen the effect and have it more consistent, if they remove or negate it, you can play another one later on

to be useable by Beyonder it would have to be a non-opd card fyi

correct me if im wrong... but can't any activator card be used as attacks against DoW even if the specials are non offensive?

and one way to correct or solve the issue of Beyonder being used in a deck and you can't use this... we just need to create the activator card for the collector... his own hero card to be used as strictly the activator to get it out


a good image, give him stats and innate... he could be like 8-8-8-8 Galactus with 1 special. 24 points

that would clear up the Beyonder character/battlesite issue

it shouldn't be a limit if you play Beyonder, you are paying major points to utilize him

[drdeath25]

I would hate this card to be real. They made DoW because nobody used Any-Heros, and battlesites were way more powerful at the time. DoW evened it up, but possibly tipped it to where any heroes became slightly more powerful. A battlesite deck having the ability to shut off any heroes would just take it back to when battlesites were easily more powerful.

Plus, in a way, DoW lessened the fun of the game for alot of people, as alot of games outcome could be determined by "how fast can i draw my DoW". But you didnt have to worry about that in BS vs BS games or AH vs AH games.  Now, with this card, almost every game would be largely tilted towards a huge momentum advantage of whoever drew there DoW/Collector card first.

I don't like it. They need to make a Any-Homebase aspect that is a KL special.

[chuu]

i don't think that this card will ever be tournament legal but if it was I'd probably go with a deck with no any-heroes and no battle site...lol.

[teesaw]

A lot of good feedback, much appreciated.  I'll take this back to the drawing board for a bit.