so i was thinking about ultimate evil

[Jack]

That Wasp isn't mine, I'll upload the Wasp set tonight.

EDIT:
I don't have my files on me so I can't upload the picture. I'll get to it by next week. Sorry!

And for the record, the set's proper name was "Absolute Evils".

[Nostalgic]

I think Loki has to be a strength 4 since he's on the power card.

[TGW]

I think Loki has to be a strength 4 since he's on the power card.

I agree. The 4 strength is something I overlooked when I sent Jack the grid stats. I was going to give Loki an 8 in Intellect as well, but I wanted him to be a double 7 like Thor, but I'm with you on the 4 strength, good call.

[breadmaster]

the stats don't necessarily have to correspond to the power cards. doom 2099 is on the 8, but only has 7i

TGW: if you're up to it, we could design a set.  the main goal for me would be to get an additional special for each marvel villain.  i don't really want to create many new characters, as that side tracks it a bit.  the characters i would like to do, are the villains appearing on locations.

abomination
expediter (villain?)
silver samurai
viper
mephisto
sauron
lizard
klaw

even that might be too much of a sidetrack though...what's your thoughts? i have it at around 60 specials for existing+54 for new characters (1 character + 6 specials each)...so approximately 120 cards

the final 'official' cards to round out would be to finish the aspects (i counted 18), a special for the 3 characters who didn't get marvels cards (xbabies/shi-ar/morlocks), and the 2 heroes on locations

blink
shatterstar

that puts the final 'chaser' set around 45 cards

[Nostalgic]

I think Loki has to be a strength 4 since he's on the power card.

I agree. The 4 strength is something I overlooked when I sent Jack the grid stats. I was going to give Loki an 8 in Intellect as well, but I wanted him to be a double 7 like Thor, but I'm with you on the 4 strength, good call.

I had been using a Loki from CC's site with the stats 8e 2f 4s 8i, but I think I like the double 7s and strength 4 because as you said its reflects Thor.

[breadmaster]

also, i thought i'd throw out some of the guidelines i was thinking of when making a card

1) following the tier list i made (it's not the bible though)

2) getting cards that fit the abilities/personality of the character

3) augmenting existing cards the character already has

a couple examples would be juggernaut and rhino.  these guys are knows for tearing up the environment.  i was thinking a couple opds for them

juggernaut: opponent may not use activators for remainder of battle, or possibly a high level anypower attack that would count for venture against the battlesite

rhino: opponent must discard 3 placed cards, opponent's choice

those 2 specials would follow the first couple guidelines, but not so much the 3rd

also, i'm not against the idea of brand new mechanics.  i've never designed cards before, so there's bound to be some mistakes.  if we get a few people in on this, hopefully such mistakes can be minimized/eliminated

[TGW]

Bios: Awesome homemades, I like what you did with Swamp Thing and John Constantine as well as their respective specials, two of my very favorite comic book characters (let's not get into their appearances on the silver screen). Lobo looks like he'd be fun to play as well. I'd be interested in checking out your Marvel sets if you have any links.

breadmaster: Expediter (Zoe Culloden) is a part of Landau, Luckman & Lake, so I'm not sure she would be a considered a villain, maybe more of a neutral character working for the interests of LL&L. I have her grid as 4-6-2-6.

As for helping on the set, I would be interested. I'm currently working on a project involving the OverPower character cards and my customs, it's essentially a version of OverPower that is playable using the character cards and a deck of playing cards, with certain cards associating to the existing character specials (and some new ones, or in the case of my custom characters, all new specials). I have a two player format already in place and am fine tuning a solitaire version, so I can put the cards to use when no one else interested in playing is around. That (and a couple fantasy football drafts coming up this weekend) is taking up some of my free time, but I'll be happy to assist in suggestions for new specials and grids for the characters that were never created that appeared on location cards. I reached out to Jack with a request to put together the missing characters on all the locations (both Marvel and Image), using artwork and grids I put together, be currently he is busy with work and the Marvels set , so perhaps I can provide my materials as a starting base.

I'm not that good with photoshop and don't have a printer currently hooked up, so I wouldn't be able to take our ideas and make them a 'reality' so to speak, but perhaps we could find someone who can assist down the road.

My first suggestion; No X-Babies specials, or else an average card for them. They are strong enough as it is, too strong in my opinion for such a cheap and somewhat ridiculous group of characters.

[breadmaster]

i agree with you on xbabies: i hate them.  for completeness sake though, i'd like to give them a card.  i saw one homemade with lil storm as an AA, that seems to be just fine.  if you wanted to nerf them even more, it could be a 5any AA, like serpent society's

i'm also no good with photoshop and stuff.  jack will probably not be interested, since he's not into customs at all.  that stuff comes later anyways

i'm in no rush, so whenever you get an idea for a character, just post it, and anyone else can comment on it or tweak it

[TGW]

Sounds like a plan. We can use this thread for the brainstorming and idea sharing. The important thing is to come up with the actual specials to assign to each character first, the artwork/photoshop can come later, especially if we have enough participation. I'd be interested in seeing some of the homemades created by users on this forum such as Bios so we can compare and either expand upon those ideas or use them as a template for something new.

As for the X-Babies, I'd be all for giving them an AA special. Lil' Storm is perfect, heck, they could have the anypower AA special like Serpent Society, but AA works for them.

[breadmaster]

ok, i'll edit the first post

i'll fix the thunderbolts error, move a couple characters around, and put an asterisk next to characters that have a special suggested in the topic

[BigBadHarve]

I'd personally love an Evil's set - the trick is having it accepted en masse. 'The Marvels' are pretty much the only homemades that are universally accepted because there was a semi official stamp on them.

That being said, it would be interesting to see what a community created set would yield. Bring on the debates!

I don't think the X-babies warrant any new cards. They are stacked as is, and plenty of sets went by where other characters got neglected in favour of the Babies... so, to hell with 'em.

Some suggestions of cards I'd like to see for characters to start us off -

Characters who don't share their comic counterpart's level of Power:

Two Characters I'd like to see with specialty NEGATES:

Dr. Doom - "NONE CHALLENGE DOOM!" Negate the effect of 1 special card played by opponent. May be played while Dr. Doom is in the reserve.

I liked Breadman's earlier dea for it, but don't see the need to nerf the negate. But I do think Doom should be the ONLY 8 stat character to be given one.)

Apocalypse - "YOU ARE BENEATH ME!" Negate the effect of 1 special card played by opponent. Apocalypse may discard this card to the top of the draw pile after use. OPD. 

Something different, but immensely useful if acquired early.


Other random ideas:

Venom - "WEB STRANDS" Target character may not attack for remainder of battle. If successful Venom may make one additional attack. OPD

I was originally thinking of that one for Spider-Man, something useful that accounts for his usual ability to web multiple foes. But it works well for Venom too.

Carnage - "VAMPIRIC SYMBIOTE" Target must discard all placed cards. Carnage may draw 1 card for each card discarded by opponent. OPD

Something a little sweet for the oft-ignored and underpowered Carnage.

Kingpin - "PROTECTING MY INTERESTS" Teammate may avoid 1 attack. May be played while Kingpin is in the reserve.

Something I always felt would be suitable for him.

Mysterio - "OOOPS, TRY AGAIN!"  Mysterio or teammate may avoid 1 attack of 4 or less. Opponent must discard one card from hand.

Tee hee. Watch Mysterio appear on a few decks now.


There are a few to start the ball rolling. I'm sure everyone has their own ideas about what characters deserve what specials.

-BBH

[breadmaster]

loving the ideas so far harv!

with one exception...i think that kingpin card may be too much.  i do think a couple characters should get reserve avoids, but fisk is not one of them, for a couple reasons.  first, he's already gets use, and i think these avoids should go to crappy/terribly average characters with one good card.  second, i think that combined with hell's kitchen, it may be too much

that mysterio card is great though, both for him, and the battlesite

[breadmaster]

here's a few i came up with for the stinkers

acolytes: magneto +3 to all actions for remainder of game (opd)

hydra: play during battle.  discard this special to KO hydra or teammate.  retrieve 2 characters from dead characters pile (opd)

(call it: 'cut off one head, and two replace it', or whatever their slogan is)

psycho man: opponent may not use cards with an icon 6 or greater for remainder of battle (opd)

(this is probably my favourite card of the bunch.  call it 'microverse'.  i also thought about tweaking it to have a DoW feel...something like ' Opponent cannot use cards with icons 6 or greater for remainder of game or until this Special has been attacked with 4 such cards)

[TGW]

I think the Hydra special might be too strong, I like the idea of it, and maybe it'll work since Hydra cost quite a few points to play, but maybe only allow for 1 character to return from the dead character pile, or 2 characters to return for remainder of the battle, so it could be placed for a late game play.

I LOVE the Psycho-Man special. If a character should get a DoW type special it would be him. That would make him so much more playable and a dangerous character. Good stuff.

[breadmaster]

the hyrdra card may indeed be too strong, but i'm not convinced yet.  the text isn't clear yet, but while the hits on the record are removed, they would still count for venture.  so it's a powerful card, but directly adds nothing to venture.  it indirectly adds by allowing you to keep specials for ko'd characters during discard phase.  and like all powerful specials, it can be negated (or kill hydra before they can play it).  it would defenitely need to be tested

anyone else have any ideas for new specials?