so i was thinking about ultimate evil

Started by breadmaster, August 12, 2012, 04:32:24 PM

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steve2275

Quote from: AO user on August 13, 2014, 09:57:48 PM
This where play testing would be a good thing.  This says for remainder of game BUT is not opd.  Also it only takes one hit.  There has to be at least one PC follow up on a TW.  It would be nice to have in play to handle the bold few that use basic universe cards to make a 10+ attack to 'go over the top' of AD specials that block 1-9 attacks. Looking forward to the release!
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a lot of EB specials are that way

breadmaster

another issue came up during testing with psycho man's card

PSYCHO-MAN-Microverse: Next battle, opponent must discard all cards with icons containing values greater than 5.  OPD   

an unintended consequence was that opponent must discard placed cards, as well as hits in the user's permanent record.  it seemed kind of strong, but any thoughts are welcome

ideas:

change it to 'discard from hand...'

change it to 'discard placed and from hand...'

leave it as is


breadmaster

it was awesome seeing a psycho man deck at the tournament yesterday!

also, seems as good a time as any to post the image for that one


AO user

That looks like a'big boy card.  Negate only, right?  Cuz it's not targeted attack so no avoids.   I think from hand would be enough.  Placed are vulnerable ti penance stare, raza or witch/ iron man's IA.  Btw nice meeting you!      -john

breadmaster

great meeting you as well!

I'm also leaning towards your thoughts on the card.  you are correct that it is negate only.  it's worded in such a way, that it plays like an event for next battle.  it's worth nothing in the hand you draw/play it, but once you see those discards next discard phase, you can venture big to capitalize.

a similar card is the puppet master one (opponent may not play activators next battle).  the problem (i think) is that a front line character can still negate that card next battle, allowing them to keep the activators in hand.  getting 2 battles to negate a BBC (I'm really digging that acronym btw!) seems to take the bite out of it...not to mention that currently the majority of tournament decks are any heroes.

anyway, that's a long way of saying that i agree that it should be 'discard from hand...'

AO user

Snap.  I didn't catch the effect on activators:ALL of them are icons of 5 or greater. But meta 95 suggests you can't negate in battle after played.  From lil cyclops wiki "Meta #95 Specials which affect how things occur in the next battle prior to the Battle phase (e.g., before placing begins in the next battle) can be negated in the battle in which they are played. Once the next battle begins (and the effect has already taken place) the Special is no longer in play (it is discarded to the Dead Pile) and cannot be negated. Specials which last longer than the placing phase can still be negated."  The ability to place instead of discard would take some of the sting out of it but if you already have specials on everyone already that's a big ouch.

breadmaster

yeah, that's why it was specifically worded with 'discard'.  otherwise they could keep the cards in hand if they had access to a negate that battle

also, 5s are ok with that card.  I was worried about that being unclear.  perhaps it should be worded '...with values greater than or equal to 6'?

breadmaster

here's another one that I loved.  is the wording clear on it?


chuu

maybe you could say, this special acts identical to the discarded card.

AO user

It's spontaneous combustion + power mimic.  Chuu's idea about power mimic text seems on point.  This forum needs a like button.

teesaw

Is there a photobucket, pinterest, instagram, or picasa web album that has all of the Ultimate Evils cards that you've shared to date?

(Picasa Web is probably the easiest, because all you need is a gmail account, and you dont have to sign up for anything new...and you can limit the sharing to a specific album).

I'm happy to help with set-up if needed.
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justa

The Doc Ock card reads fine to me as-is.  The "card chosen" is the card Doc Ock chose to be discarded.
My question is: Any ETA on the Ultimate Evil set?  I realize things get can get bogged down in play testing, and its a lot of work to make everyone involved happy, or more aptly less-unhappy, with each card.  I applaud the effort so far and antici........pate its completion.

breadmaster

this is another one I really dig due to the marriage of image/name/effect



justa: it's hard to give a date.  I was aniticipating getting them out this fall (2014), but people wanted more time to test.  there's yet to be any imput, so who knows.  production has started chugging again on the art side, so we're still alive.  I've also been logging the hours testing away.

as for tee's question, we have chatted about this, and the completed cards are in a dropbox account that is bios',  so it's not really my decision to release them.

justa

Thanks for the update, breadmaster.  And thanks to all involved, for the 10 cards you've shared with us so far, and all the rest of the set to come.  I know this has been years in the making, so a few more weeks/months ain't no big deal, really.  Maybe when this set is out, bios will get to finish up and publish his Spiderman set.

Merry Christmas to all!
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breadmaster

yeah, it's been a long haul.  there have been some creative and ambition droughts along the way, but overall it's been a fun experience

here's another one of my favourites.  along with his negate, this would bump morbius into A LOT of decks (though one particular player has always backed him!)



always like seeing those less known characters making it onto cards