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Rules => Game Mechanics => Meta Rules => Topic started by: Jack on March 02, 2011, 09:47:13 PM

Title: New Metarules?
Post by: Jack on March 02, 2011, 09:47:13 PM
Probably a pointless topic to bring up.

Here's Thing's card (OD):
(http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/1391.png)

Here's Spawn's card (ZY):
(http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/1276.png)

Here's DoW (OD):
(http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/13.png)

When I create my specials look up, it will include the meta rules with it as well. If you were to look up the meta for Thing's OD, it wouldn't make any sense. It makes perfect sense with Spawn's ZY.

Should ZY be merged into OD or should Thing's card actually be coded as ZY?

/rant
There shouldn't have been a reason to use ZZ/ZY codes. What were the people thinking with the Any Character Bastion?

/bonus
Should we classify meta rules for the new card codes? Not sure if any of them need metas to clarify things.
Title: Re: OD/ZY?
Post by: Onslaught on March 02, 2011, 10:15:45 PM
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Should we classify meta rules for the new card codes? Not sure if any of them need metas to clarify things.

The original "ripayuheadoff" Marvels list also had a list of mini-meta rules/FAQ for all the specials with new codes, so it might be worth including those. It may be worth reviewing them just for clarification that the new "acts as level 9 powercard for team defense cards" cannot be used to block a JW.

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Meta Rule #84
    Specials which indicate that they act as Power cards only act as Power cards in that they can sometimes be used to attack or defend (as specified on the Special). They do NOT take on any other properties of Power cards i.e., they count towards X-Babies KO, they do NOT fuse with other MultiPower Power cards, they cannot be  removed with an EE Special.

Also it reinforced some unclear rules questions, like Dazzler's new card only being played offensively, confirming the suspected timing for Spider-Man's new card, etc.
Title: Re: OD/ZY?
Post by: ncannelora on March 03, 2011, 07:51:08 PM
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Should ZY be merged into OD or should Thing's card actually be coded as ZY?

I'd say that Thing's card is mis-coded and should be neither. It is only a slight difference from Spawn's (and better  ;) ), but it's actually the exact same difference as is between an AV and an FN.

Relevant to the Meta Rules, the difference between those two is the clarification of Rule #110 for the FN, which should also somehow be attached to Thing's STONEWALL.

Having said that, STONEWALL is clearly closer to a ZY than it is to OD.

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... confirming the suspected timing for Spider-Man's new card, etc

And what is that suspected timing? lol

Also, are these mini-metas listed somewhere?
Title: Re: OD/ZY?
Post by: Ravencroft on March 06, 2011, 05:51:23 PM
From what ive heard Spawn's Finite Power was supposed to be an any hero, so thats why its coded ZY.
When it went to print they accidentally put Spawn's name on it, because Todd McFarlane comanded Spawn be god.
Title: Re: OD/ZY?
Post by: Jack on March 06, 2011, 06:36:14 PM
I forgot about Finite Power being an Any Character first before being a Spawn card.

I should probably move this into another topic to get feedback for all Marvels cards to see which meta rules need to be either: added to existing Codes or created for new codes. Also to add the new meta rules for the new cards (Spiderman's WGR..)