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Nothing special, just an example of what OP3 Power cards would look like, including my take on dual-type Multis.

http://overpower-3rd.deviantart.com/art/Power-Cards-01-681406666
http://overpower-3rd.deviantart.com/art/Power-Cards-02-681407581

(i'm assuming you'll post up a full set of individual cards eventually.)

i found through limited play testing (both with legacy rules & PowerBalance rules) that the Spectrum potential of the 2-type multies consistently outperformed AnyPower cards.  also their effectiveness was greatly reduced when mixing 2-type with 4-type.
i think the "multi-merge" rule needs to be modifies a bit when using 2-type multies.  in general, the modification is that they must merge into the most common power type(s).
for example, EFSI + EF = E or F.  add an SI to that, its back to any type.  or add an FS to that instead of the SI, and it must = F.
another example, EF + SI don't merge, as you said, and i originally designed for.  add an FS to that, and they must merge to F or S.
the results of restricting the merge power type is that 1) you shouldn't mix 4-type with 2-type, 2) you shouldn't overload on them, and 3) you need to plan out your targeting a little more based on which types you're using.

but that is all justa my opinion.  i would love to hear from you or anybody else who may have used these type cards regarding results they've seen.

Quote from: justa on May 19, 2017, 03:27:00 PM
(i'm assuming you'll post up a full set of individual cards eventually.)

I don't think that's necessary.  I'll just include the rest of the set of dual cards in the big .rar files for Marvel and DC.

Quotei found through limited play testing (both with legacy rules & PowerBalance rules) that the Spectrum potential of the 2-type multies consistently outperformed AnyPower cards.  also their effectiveness was greatly reduced when mixing 2-type with 4-type.
i think the "multi-merge" rule needs to be modifies a bit when using 2-type multies.  in general, the modification is that they must merge into the most common power type(s).
for example, EFSI + EF = E or F.  add an SI to that, its back to any type.  or add an FS to that instead of the SI, and it must = F.
another example, EF + SI don't merge, as you said, and i originally designed for.  add an FS to that, and they must merge to F or S.
the results of restricting the merge power type is that 1) you shouldn't mix 4-type with 2-type, 2) you shouldn't overload on them, and 3) you need to plan out your targeting a little more based on which types you're using.

but that is all justa my opinion.  i would love to hear from you or anybody else who may have used these type cards regarding results they've seen.

That's brilliant.  Definitely the new rule for OP3 going forward.

i think you need to modify your fusion rule wording slightly.  you should add the words "that share a Power type" between "Permanent Record" and "must".  that way, an EF is not forced to merge with an SI, as intended originally and agreed to previously.
otherwise, i'm all for your ruling.     (i don't mind that you did not include the ability to meet the requirements of other cards that need a specific type Power card, like AE Specials.  that part could be chocked up to my penchant to go too far at times.)
the strategy in using 2-type multies can get quite artistic in its own way.  my best results came from using only 2 of the 6 types in any single deck.  (the 2 types i used did not share icons.)  but i'm still hoping more play data comes in from other users.

Quote from: justa on June 05, 2017, 08:35:45 PM
i think you need to modify your fusion rule wording slightly.  you should add the words "that share a Power type" between "Permanent Record" and "must".  that way, an EF is not forced to merge with an SI, as intended originally and agreed to previously.

I think that's fair.

Quote(i don't mind that you did not include the ability to meet the requirements of other cards that need a specific type Power card, like AE Specials.  that part could be chocked up to my penchant to go too far at times.)

Ya, that's entirely intentional.  I never liked the Power Balance idea that lets you use Multis as a substitute for any other type of Power card.  In OP3, you can't use Multis with Specials unless they specify that you can, like with Black Panther's and Stargirl's MD Specials.  Come to think of it, I may have to revise those cards now since they're quite a bit more powerful with 2-type Multis.