single most powerful character (pre Marvels)

[Demacus]

So, the prospect of just ignoring each others jabs is right-out, eh?  I mean, if you really just want to argue/fight with each other, there has to be a better way then on the public forums, isn't there?

I get the logic that fighting in public kind of incites folks to back your cause, but it's been going on for a couple of months now, and with each new point/jibe, it appears it will not be ending soon, regardless of whomelse supports your views.

You have science and facts backing your arguement? Great!

First hand experience tells you otherwise? Rock on!

You don't have too agree, hell you don't even have to like each other, but is your personal pride really worth taking away the actual value of these forums?

Now be adults and let it drop please. Last I checked, this thread was about opinions of who is the strongest character in the game, and I for one, feel that it's a character without an 8 stat: The X-babies.  Sure in a hypothetical one-on-one match their lack of an 8 stat might do them in, but on a team, they always bring some useful toys to the party.

[DiceK]

Last I checked, this thread was about opinions of who is the strongest character in the game, and I for one, feel that it's a character without an 8 stat: The X-babies.  Sure in a hypothetical one-on-one match their lack of an 8 stat might do them in, but on a team, they always bring some useful toys to the party.

Agreed.

[Oscorp]

Friends and I played it out several years back...  and the winner...  one vs one....   Dark Phoenix.

There you go.

And personal opinion based on arguments and everything...  it really depends on your team...   so the X-Babies work due to low cost and usability.     Mr.Fantastic would have sucked on my Team X, Maverick Deck....  but I could have swung the Babies.

My vote otherwise goes to Donald Pierce....  dual stat, neutral cost, wicked specials.

[Bullio]

Last I checked, this thread was about opinions of who is the strongest character in the game, and I for one, feel that it's a character without an 8 stat: The X-babies.  Sure in a hypothetical one-on-one match their lack of an 8 stat might do them in, but on a team, they always bring some useful toys to the party.

Agreed.

eehhh, pre-"Dead is Dead" I think you could make the argument, but post-DiD I really don't think they come close.  Once you get through their specials and into the power pack they're pretty much done, though artifacts that raise their stats to 7 will help here.  I think the best use for them still is as a sponge, which is how I used to use them pre-DiD.  They're just not quite as good of one as they used to be.

[Nostalgic]

All of this just seems like a fancy way to say that you blew it and were able to back up your grandstanding blow-hard ways when it counted.   And you can rant and rave all you want, and make as many excuses as you need to feel better about it, but you lost and not only did you lose, but you were the only guy in that whole tournament who bitched and moaned and whined about almost every match you had.

You are a very good player and you build very strong teams I lost 2 out of 3 to you and conceded the other as a draw, but your poor sportsmanship is also unparalleled and it makes you one giant pain in the ass.

dude you can't always be right.  Learn to accept it and get on with your life.

You are starting to look like an over intelligent 5 year old pitching a fit just because you didn't get the candy bar you wanted.

Geeze

And you're surprised....why?
Hadn't been here in a while but some things/people never change.   

I vote Mr. X compared to Mr. F in a one on one due X's the dual grid stat backup (in case someone shuts down the primary) and even his AH so he doesn't have to worry about negates/avoids when making his specials stick. Fantastic's card is great, but he might get a bad draw. Now if he had an OC different story. 

[gameplan.exe]

And you're surprised....why?
Hadn't been here in a while but some things/people never change.   

I vote Mr. X compared to Mr. F in a one on one due X's the dual grid stat backup (in case someone shuts down the primary) and even his AH so he doesn't have to worry about negates/avoids when making his specials stick. Fantastic's card is great, but he might get a bad draw. Now if he had an OC different story. 

Are you implying that when Professor X's (AH) is in play, attacks from Professor X can't be defended by Special cards? 

[steve2275]

And you're surprised....why?
Hadn't been here in a while but some things/people never change.   

I vote Mr. X compared to Mr. F in a one on one due X's the dual grid stat backup (in case someone shuts down the primary) and even his AH so he doesn't have to worry about negates/avoids when making his specials stick. Fantastic's card is great, but he might get a bad draw. Now if he had an OC different story. 
Are you implying that when Professor X's (AH) is in play, attacks from Professor X can't be defended by Special cards? 

thats a good question

[Nostalgic]

And you're surprised....why?
Hadn't been here in a while but some things/people never change.   

I vote Mr. X compared to Mr. F in a one on one due X's the dual grid stat backup (in case someone shuts down the primary) and even his AH so he doesn't have to worry about negates/avoids when making his specials stick. Fantastic's card is great, but he might get a bad draw. Now if he had an OC different story. 

Are you implying that when Professor X's (AH) is in play, attacks from Professor X can't be defended by Special cards? 

Yes. Why would you be able to defend against him with specials if no specials can be played against him? At least that was my understanding of the card.

[breadmaster]

i never thought of the AH being used that way...but i LIKE it!

[CCTelander]

And you're surprised....why?
Hadn't been here in a while but some things/people never change.   

I vote Mr. X compared to Mr. F in a one on one due X's the dual grid stat backup (in case someone shuts down the primary) and even his AH so he doesn't have to worry about negates/avoids when making his specials stick. Fantastic's card is great, but he might get a bad draw. Now if he had an OC different story. 

Are you implying that when Professor X's (AH) is in play, attacks from Professor X can't be defended by Special cards? 

Yes. Why would you be able to defend against him with specials if no specials can be played against him? At least that was my understanding of the card.

Well, how about because the word "against" strongly implies the offensive only act of targeting, and would therefore relegate the AH coded specials to protecting ONLY against offensive actions that actually target the Character with the card? Defensive actions never target a character.

I'm pretty sure that this was the "official" ruling on using AH coded Specials, but I could be remembering incorrectly. In any event, it's how we've always played them around here.

[Onslaught]

AH specials do not prevent the opponent from defending with special cards against attacks made by the user of the AH.

[gameplan.exe]

AH specials do not prevent the opponent from defending with special cards against attacks made by the user of the AH.

Yeah, I've never played it that way, so I was just being sure that I didn't miss a huge implication 

Anyway, still a handy card, as it would certainly defeat that (AR) from Mr.F