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Interesting.  Maybe someone in the Evils set could get a "may not be spectrum ko'd" special.

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Top 10 characters (team):
Spawn
X-babies
X-man
H4h
Silver sable
Iceman
Hawkeye
Reavers
Maurauders
Cyclops

46 in no particular order:
Beyonder (one of the top cards in the game)
Cable
Capt America
Colossus
Crux
Morlocks
Serpent society
Starjammers
Thing
Thor
Typhoid Mary
Violator
War machine
White queen
Zealot
Wonder Woman
Malebogia
Ghost rider
Holocaust
Invisible woman
Iron man
Longshot
Mr fantastic
Mystique
Nightcrawler
Phoenix
Polaris
Post - omg his ia
Psylocke
Quicksilver
Red skull
Reyes
Rogue
Sabra
Sentinels
Shadow king
Shadow cat
Spider woman (R)
Spider girl
Storm
Super skrull
Team x - Just their pool of specials
Flash (R)
Inhumans
Scarlet witch
Doomsday - best character from b/s. max 8&6, negate

Some of these would make great reserves but all of these should be targeted over heroes not on this list. This is like the top ~60.

wow, BasiliskFang, that's quite the list. You have some interesting people on that long list (including a duplicate Cyclops, who is also on the short list...). I'm not sure I'd consider all those people to be particularly threatening. A few of them stood out to me as possibly out of place...

Longshot - a max-7, aside from his lv.3 Fgt, Purity of Thought is good, but really hard to be effective. His I.A. is good, but it's only very harmful if there are more people with it (I.Woman, BlueBeetle, etc), and then they become the bigger threats...
Mystique - I'm not sure what, exactly, is threatening about her...
Polaris - she has a DB, and her unique FN, but her best card is only useful if she's been targeted a lot (GF)
Thing - aside from being a max-8, his only real threat of a card is his 10S. Even his Marvels card isn't too bad
Typhoid Mary - a max-7, aside from her HR, she has a lv.5 Int (JZ) but her other "threat" is a lv.0 Int (NU)
War Machine - a max-7, aside from his AQ, his Pepper Potts card is the next best, but that's probably only delaying the inevitable...

if I said to pare this down to a top 20 threats, what would you kick back?

i was up late and using an ipad. thats why they're not in order.
i edited a little.

response to your qualms:
Longshot - negate, 1/mil, shift->AG, IA.
Mystique - EI CA AT AN
Polaris - DB (always for the whole team dont forget), EB, FN, GF, JW, her IA
Thing - max 8, AS, ZY (as you said)
Typhoid Mary - her IA, BL HR JW NO NU (well put together)
War Machine - AD AQ AT

I might be overlooking him on your list BasiliskFang, but I don't see Donald Pierce. I'd say he's easily a top-10 character in OP.

Quote from: BasiliskFang on August 02, 2013, 06:05:29 PM
i was up late and using an ipad. thats why they're not in order.
i edited a little.

response to your qualms:
Longshot - negate, 1/mil, shift->AG, IA.
Mystique - EI CA AT AN
Polaris - DB (always for the whole team dont forget), EB, FN, GF, JW, her IA
Thing - max 8, AS, ZY (as you said)
Typhoid Mary - her IA, BL HR JW NO NU (well put together)
War Machine - AD AQ AT

well, maybe we just have different concerns based on the way we build our own decks (the opponents of these would-be opponents  ). In my mind, for example, I would rather attack Longshot's teammate and force Longshot to play his AC before playing his DO or his AG. Then you're getting your opponent to burn an extra card before they even address the attack, which would also take away a desperation move on your next turn, as you continue to pummel that original target.

maybe another difference in our thinking is this: I'm not used to seeing someone like Typhoid Mary on a team without a teammate like Wolverine, Cable, or Captain America. Similar scenario with Thing: as a 17 point, Max-8, I usually see him relagated to the Reserve (with his 10s AS) to make room up front for a character like Heroes4Hire. That's why I wondered how your top 20 threats would look; if the list is too broad, it loses... focus? 

(also, I still contend with the War Machine inclusion. first, AT cards are only a 1 for 1 trade, so there's never a real numbers advantage; really, you're hoping for a duplicate of a good card like a high Power card, or negate or something, and the odds just are there. second, his AD is, perhaps, the worst AD in the game. I'd rather use Super Girl's AD than War Machine's  )

you're right, i kept skimming over the fact it said energy...lol
i think it is tied with this for worst AD:

maybe 1 card in their deck unless they're using wundagore or fall's.

wow, that AD is so bad I don't think I ever even knew it existed!

(to be fair, I was always searching teammate ADs  )

just a reminder war machine also has
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/1478.png thanks for the extra card....but back to 1 mission card  you go
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/1481.png i conceded last round so relief for me
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/1484.png perhaps useless...but i still like its ability to accumilate

polaris
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/1020.png she can form an anti power card barrier with  multiple turns right?
multiple man
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/895.png
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/899.png

captain brittain
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/238.png but an anti special barrier

Quote from: steve2275 on August 03, 2013, 01:19:47 AM
just a reminder war machine also has
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/1478.png thanks for the extra card....but back to 1 mission card  you go
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/1481.png i conceded last round so relief for me
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/1484.png perhaps useless...but i still like its ability to accumilate

polaris
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/1020.png she can form an anti power card barrier with  multiple turns right?
multiple man
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/895.png
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/899.png

captain brittain
http://overpower.ca/cards/specials/238.png but an anti special barrier

I'll give you the Marvels card for War Machine - I'd forgotten he got that.

Maybe this is another way for me to say what I mean and to be understood for the point I'm trying to make...

do you see these people used in a lot of decks?

Morlocks
Thing (in the front line, at least)
Typhoid Mary
War machine
Malebogia
Mystique
Psylocke
Red skull
Shadow king
Super skrull

nope
hank pym+giant man+goliath=9 strength tw start

Quote from: steve2275 on August 03, 2013, 09:59:16 PM
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hank pym+giant man+goliath=9 strength tw start

... I'm sorry... are you trying to suggest that Hank Pym be considered a top threat? I mean, he could be a top threat, but it's hard to imagine him on a deck without some of the top Int characters, like Beast or Mr. Fantastic... I mean, he has some potential, with the right prep, but what you described there takes 3 cards to make 1 attack... not exactly a huge threat 

slow day 
more of a biggest literal threat
course goliath can be played more than one turn
if youre using avengers mansion with cap or widow(super soldier serum)  and thor thrown in(serpent crown)
play his cards right and you got a 3 hit string(AA to JC to JZ)

Quote from: steve2275 on August 04, 2013, 02:14:09 AM
slow day 
more of a biggest literal threat
course goliath can be played more than one turn
if youre using avengers mansion with cap or widow  and thor thrown in

lol, nice